Discussion Do humans 'live' longer the less time they are asleep?

[Memento Mori]

"Imagine it please. This human bean who says he is fifty has been fast asleep for twenty years and is not even knowing where he is! Not even doing anything! Not even thinking!"

- The BFG

Humans spend a large fraction of their time alive in a period of sleep. One might argue the less time you spend sleeping, the more time you get to experience this world through the mind and the senses.

Do you place more value on the time that you are awake and conscious? Or is sleep something that is necessary to you?

 

[Truckzo]

I sleep because rest is comforting, and plus because if I don't i'm in discomfort. I am very much into altered states of consciousness though and I have purposefully gone without sleeping because I think that what you're experiencing under these states is real in some aspect, maybe in an abstract manner (I'm esoteric)

 

[newsincerity]

we are made of memories

 

[Memento Mori]

we are made of memories

elab

 

[newsincerity]

elab

I'm not eloquent so I can't

 

[Memento Mori]

I'm not eloquent so I can't

I get the vibe of it tho

 

[lunin7]

I sleep for like 5 to 6 hours & im fine

I need to sleep on my back because when I sleep on my stomach it causes me to mouth breath since my nose is blocked, brootall

 

[The Patriarchy]

I get on the computer feel tired and want to sleep. I goto bed and get on the phone instead. I get amped up and want to go back on computer. The stroke did this to me.

 

[Nosecel_]

When you are sleeping your body is doing other functions, there's no way to escape sleep. Sleep debt is real, I'm not a scientist but I've tried to looking into it and as far as I'm aware there's a chemical called "adenosine" that your body removes as you are sleeping, not getting enough sleep just allows the chemical to build up, caffeine can temporarily block it but once it's effects run out you will still end up feeling progressively more tired, your brain and body becomes slower, your reaction time, etc.

Losing sleep correlates with dementia, cardiovascular disease, heart attacks, blah blah all of the stuff you don't want. The way I see it is that avoiding sleep will just make you more tired, hurt your health, and you'll still need to make up the sleep anyway, so you shouldn't jeopardize your health to try and avoid it. Just sleep when you are tired and build everything else around that, again low IQ just my opinion.

 

[MelaninWarlord]

I'm so sleepy deprived I've walked at night alone from the homeless shelter where there's only rats outside

 

[midnightsun]

Humans spend a large fraction of their time alive in a period of sleep. One might argue the less time you spend sleeping, the more time you get to experience this world through the mind and the senses.

Do you place more value on the time that you are awake and conscious? Or is sleep something that is necessary to you?

I don’t think this world is worth experiencing through the mind and the senses. I believe it’s all an illusion/simulation/dream anyway. I don’t place more value on the time that I’m awake and conscious. In fact, I do the opposite and prefer being asleep to being awake. I find life and this world/reality boring and dreams much better than reality

 

[MelaninWarlord]

I don’t think this world is worth experiencing through the mind and the senses. I believe it’s all an illusion/simulation/dream anyway. I don’t place more value on the time that I’m awake and conscious. In fact, I do the opposite and prefer being asleep to being awake. I find life and this world/reality boring and dreams much better than reality

There was a man from Vietnam who had never slept for 40 years

I'm sort of like him but I take meds when I'm insomniac

 

[MelaninWarlord]

I get on the computer feel tired and want to sleep. I goto bed and get on the phone instead. I get amped up and want to go back on computer. The stroke did this to me.

You and me are like the terminally awake dudes on the forum

 

[MelaninWarlord]

I sleep for like 5 to 6 hours & im fine

I need to sleep on my back because when I sleep on my stomach it causes me to mouth breath since my nose is blocked, brootall

I'm jealous of @Loner ability to lucid dream and astral project

I can only escape this reality by instant gratification rather than reality ascending consicousness

 

[Loner]

Humans spend a large fraction of their time alive in a period of sleep. One might argue the less time you spend sleeping, the more time you get to experience this world through the mind and the senses.

It’s funny because sleep itself is a vulnerability that contradicts the notion of survival being the foremost force behind the evolutionary process.

If sleep is widespread among lifeforms why haven’t they evolved to no longer no longer need to sleep since it leaves them so vulnerable?

Do you place more value on the time that you are awake and conscious? Or is sleep something that is necessary to you?

Sleep can be hit or miss (as an enjoyable experience) depending on what someone’s dreams are like and whether or not you even have a habit of becoming aware in them.

I prefer sleeping to being awake when I’m in control of my dreams and what I get to experience, waking up back here after experiencing something like that is incredibly disappointing.

However when I sleep regularly I usually get these disgusting and weird scenarios that typically send me back to a school environment or other recurring environments, so much that I’ve begun to recognize the locations I’m in which tend to have the same consistent areas and layout every time despite being an obvious crude reconstruction of a place I’ve been to irl. You’d think dreams would never display such strong consistency if they were really a bunch of subconscious brain mumbo jumbo.

When you have a habit of waking up inside dreams you’ll learn that dreams are really just creepy stage plays with negative entities taking on the form of characters (probably familiar people). It’s easy to dismiss this as some Freudian/Jungian subconscious bullshit that’s “all in one’s head” but that easily debunked when you experience being able to craft entire dream environments from scratch and populate them with whatever you imagine simply through visualization, and then suddenly experience that process being hijacked by an obvious third party that then chases you down throughout whatever distorted environment that spawned for the sole obvious purpose of ejecting you from the dream.

As well as when you experience a dream character turning into one of the infamous grey aliens as soon and it’s alerted to your lucidity; and then understanding it’s one of many entities encountered in alien abduction cases.

Knowing the truth about dreams and what’s actually going on changes your perspective on regular sleep because it’s creepy as hell, especially when it’s regular dream you managed to become aware in, and you keep being sent back to the same place over and over everytime you sleep while some dream character uses that opportunity to fuck with you to piss you off since you aren’t aware.

I don’t mind being awake tbh because I have enjoyable hobbies that can keep me engaged all day and even all night sometimes, but despite that I don’t deny the blissful unconsciousness regular sleep brings, in many ways it’s even better than being aware. You’re no longer subject to the burdens and expectations of the material world.

 

[midnightsun]

It’s funny because sleep itself is a vulnerability that contradicts the notion of survival being the foremost force behind the evolutionary process.

If sleep is widespread among lifeforms why haven’t they evolved to no longer no longer need to sleep since it leaves them so vulnerable?



Sleep can be hit or miss (as an enjoyable experience) depending on what someone’s dreams are like and whether or not you even have a habit of becoming aware in them.

I prefer sleeping to being awake when I’m in control of my dreams and what I get to experience, waking up back here after experiencing something like that is incredibly disappointing.

However when I sleep regularly I usually get these disgusting and weird scenarios that typically send me back to a school environment or other recurring environments, so much that I’ve begun to recognize the locations I’m in which tend to have the same consistent areas and layout every time despite being an obvious crude reconstruction of a place I’ve been to irl. You’d think dreams would never display such strong consistency if they were really a bunch of subconscious brain mumbo jumbo.

When you have a habit of waking up inside dreams you’ll learn that dreams are really just creepy stage plays with negative entities taking on the form of characters (probably familiar people). It’s easy to dismiss this as some Freudian/Jungian subconscious bullshit that’s “all in one’s head” but that easily debunked when you experience being able to craft entire dream environments from scratch and populate them with whatever you imagine simply through visualization, and then suddenly experience that process being hijacked by an obvious third party that then chases you down throughout whatever distorted environment that spawned for the sole obvious purpose of ejecting you from the dream.

As well as when you experience a dream character turning into one of the infamous grey aliens as soon and it’s alerted to your lucidity; and then understanding it’s one of many entities encountered in alien abduction cases.

Knowing the truth about dreams and what’s actually going on changes your perspective on regular sleep because it’s creepy as hell, especially when it’s regular dream you managed to become aware in, and you keep being sent back to the same place over and over everytime you sleep while some dream character uses that opportunity to fuck with you to piss you off since you aren’t aware.

I don’t mind being awake tbh because I have enjoyable hobbies that can keep me engaged all day and even all night sometimes, but despite that I don’t deny the blissful unconsciousness regular sleep brings, in many ways it’s even better than being aware. You’re no longer subject to the burdens and expectations of the material world.

The burdens and expectations of the material world are cucked and gay

 

[MelaninWarlord]

The burdens and expectations of the material world are cucked and gay

Stop being such a doomer
Women are supposed to be nurturing and feminine and optimistic

 

[midnightsun]

Stop being such a doomer
Women are supposed to be nurturing and feminine and optimistic

Well I’m neither nurturing nor optimistic

 

[Asgard]

I want to shorten my lifespan down to 90 years.

 

[Memento Mori]

I want to shorten my lifespan down to 90 years.

Can't say I like all the tin cans shuffling around, but this new Securitron Army shouldn't have much trouble keeping things safer around here.

 

[newsincerity]

Well I’m neither nurturing nor optimistic

you a vampiric femcel doomer

 

[midnightsun]

you a vampiric femcel doomer

I’m volcel buddy

 

[newsincerity]

I’m volcel buddy

are you virgin

 

[midnightsun]

are you virgin

Yeah I’m KHHV cuz I never cared abt those things hence volcel. Idk why normies center their lives around sex, love, romance, relationships, human and social connections, etc I never felt or understood the need for that. I don’t like other people or people in general and I’m happiest being alone and by myself. I’ll probably have to find a guy to NEET off eventually tho

 

[MelaninWarlord]

Yeah I’m KHHV cuz I never cared abt those things hence volcel. Idk why normies center their lives around sex, love, romance, relationships, human and social connections, etc I never felt or understood the need for that. I don’t like other people or people in general and I’m happiest being alone and by myself. I’ll probably have to find a guy to NEET off eventually tho

Typical cold hearted gook

You have those things for oxytocin and emotional bonding

We are primates apes, a social species. Ape together strong, ring a bell?

So sex love relationships are how we form connections and eventually have children and where we form our best memories for a lifetime.

Maybe your family was very touch phobic that's why you ended up like this.

You were born because of love and sex. In order for life to continue, and for optimal neurotransmitters and to reduce stress, we engage with each other, find a partner.