Serious Taking whitepill only works if you are a failed normie

Mathiverse said:

Being failed normie means someone that could've been normie but didn't because of lacking the ability to ENJOY participating with society. It can be because of having high expectations from society, lack of will to put the effort or just having some flaws (like social anxiety, depression) that is not necessarily fixable but can be reduced in ways

However being TrueCEL/subhuman means getting outcasted by society and deemed to be an outcast/creep for entire life because of having inferior genetic qualities that society hates.


The thing is, a truecel can't believe in whitepill mainly because there's no way he can deal with a reality where his fate is sealed being an outcast for some thing that wasn't even their own fault, accepting such harsh reality will only allow a truecel to be more resentful and perhaps can't deal with it all, thus it's better for a truecel to see the truth (which is blackpill) and vent and find more truecels and be distant till eventually roping

But a failed normie can be whitepill only because he can find the society as how it is and deal with the society in a positive light through whitepill(which truecels can't because they are completely outcasted from society) and live a full life without interacting much from society but still fine without it.

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I disagree. It's possible for truecels/subhumans to be Whitepilled.

So I can be whitepilled

Still don't understand it fully

ilovewhitepill said:

So by those definitions, what would that make me? Because in secondary school (or high school if you wanna call) i was pretty much outcasted and had autism used against me,

But in college i was more like i was depressed despite people liking me and going to parties which I hated

Now bear in mind i can mask NT quite okay but thing is i have been referred to as a failed normie so but my smv is truecel like despite users saying im htn and that im 6’3

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does the past matter?

Tabula Rasa said:

I disagree. It's possible for truecels/subhumans to be Whitepilled.

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They can but they can't reap the benefits of it, a truecel is better of staying blackpill since no amount of positiveness can change the fact that they were doomed from the start imo

Mathiverse said:

They can but they can't reap the benefits of it, a truecel is better of staying blackpill since no amount of positiveness can change the fact that they were doomed from the start imo

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You're equating the Whitepill with toxic positivity and coping, when it is acceptance of their situation and circumstances.

Tabula Rasa said:

You're equating the Whitepill with toxic positivity and coping, when it is acceptance of their situation and circumstances.

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You can be blackpilled and still accept the situation but whitepill advices to keep going in life and focus on the positive aspects, but there isn't much of anything positive in a truecel's life except escapism but escapism isn't whitepill since it's not dealing with the reality

Mathiverse said:

You can be blackpilled and still accept the situation but whitepill advices to keep going in life and focus on the positive aspects, but there isn't much of anything positive in a truecel's life except escapism but escapism isn't whitepill since it's not dealing with the reality

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The Whitepill isn't about positivity. The main points that the Whitepill aims to inquire are, how should one proceed after becoming Blackpilled, and what is the most optimal lifestyle for oneself.

Tabula Rasa said:

The Whitepill isn't about positivity. The main points that the Whitepill aims to inquire are, how should one proceed after becoming Blackpilled, and what is the most optimal lifestyle for oneself.

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I mean the optimal lifestyle for a truecel is still escapism but I don't know if that's a thing to consider as whitepill since there's no permanent escape to reality and when the reality catches in then roping is gonna be ultimate escape

Ugly cavemen were whitepill.

>Ctrl+F "neurodivergent"
>zero results

Mathiverse said:

The thing is, a truecel can't believe in whitepill mainly because there's no way he can deal with a reality where his fate is sealed being an outcast for some thing that wasn't even their own fault, accepting such harsh reality will only allow a truecel to be more resentful and perhaps can't deal with it all, thus it's better for a truecel to see the truth (which is blackpill) and vent and find more truecels and be distant till eventually roping

But a failed normie can be whitepill only because he can find the society as how it is and deal with the society in a positive light through whitepill(which truecels can't because they are completely outcasted from society) and live a full life without interacting much from society but still fine without it.

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This whole logic dont make sense at all. An ugly 5 foot 5 guy cant achieve mastery in something? I literally broke down whitepill essence one time, proving that its the next evolution to blackpill, not escapism.
Integration in society can mean a lot of things, does a special forces operator integrates the same way as an actor?
What about dwarfs? There are so many arguments to show.

Perhaps i am just a failed normie, but still.

I think failed normies are people defined by failure, "lack of", and they are broadly speaking just average normies.

The phenomenon of failed normies in my opinion is an inevitable conclusion derived from our society and the values of the majority. Values in society currently are equality, fairness, the talk about "colonialism" (seen as a bad thing), "patriarchy", so on.

The normies who espouse these wrong values failed to adapt during the times where values were universal, egalitarianism ethics rule above our heads and everyone talks bout "unfairness" an "privilege".

Personally, I am against equality and fairness and compassion. I am against "having a role" and "performativity". In other words Im against normie life. So for this reason I reject your definitions. I reject all your premises and your conclusions.

I dont acknowledge the jargon you use "truecel" doesnt mean squat to me.

All your values are wrong, your ideas are all wrong. Determining beliefs of someone based on his aesthetic level is wrong.

the correct conclusion is mine. The issue is society, its this belief in equality and fairness. It can only lead to "failed normies" because equality contradicts itself. Its by design, there can not be "equality", not in this material reality.

which is why many of these failed normies get into "spirituality", they want to cope put their heads down the sand. But even if im not expert in "spiritual" stuff, I already noticed there is inequality even in that field. And spirituality does not belongs to all, its again based on achievement and it differentiates people.

I believe a truecel would be a nofapper. Celibacy was originally conceived as not having sex, not just not having sex with someone else.
Masturbation was always defined as sex, as a sexual act. Only in modern times with american high school chad culture that masturbation stopped being considered as a sexual act.
But the core remains the same as of before. True celibacy means nofap, none of it, zero. Monks used to had erotic nightmares because they suppressed their biological urges, creating the myth of the succubus out of it, an unconscious representation of their suppressed anima.
If you dont practice nofap, you aren't a true celibate, just a circunstantial one. If you still fap, you are having sex, but society will still consider you a celibate, because they use other ruler to measure it. And since you interact with them, you have to assume the label, since they will judge, gossip and slander you based on this premise, they going to do evil to you.
It happened to me, I was living a peaceful life, until they slandered me and implied there was a corpse in my home, because of a stench someone else have spread in the common areas of the building. They didnt investigate it, they just accused me out of nowhere, because I live alone and no friends. No lawyer wanted the case, so I had to change address, my Skyrim project was frozen, it was hell on Earth. And I suffered this from just existing, from just breathing, I didnt caused ill to anyone. All of this because of the label. I was ignoring it up to that moment. I was ignoring I was an incel for many years. I cant ignore it anymore. I have to feed the hate machine again, because it is the only way to protect my psyche.
But this is still different from a nofapper, which I would consider a truecel. I can hold both concepts at the same time, because they are modes of being. Most people, and specially midwits, cant hold contradictions for too long. They can only accept A or B.