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Message: <blockquote data-quote="porco-dddio" data-source="post: 90473" data-attributes="member: 656">My opinion is 1990 leganord was m5s on steroids, much more populist and capable of social engineering.Some people today talk about 1990 leganord saying it was led by economic resentment and federalism and gianfranco miglio ideas. I dont think is true, I think economic resentment was always present, but as a romantic mythology. People were convinced that veneto alone can be as wealthy as switzerland if not strangled by rome theft.Surely, lots of people were led by economical reasons alone, but it isnt what I seen. Instead I seen reallife mythmaking in action, where bossi also invented pagan rituals where "padania" was considered a sacred ancestral land stolen by roman empire. The celts were mythicized, and is funny that bossi is a levantine arab, he has no celtic blood.Other than ritual of the po they also had the sun of alps pagan herald. Pontida was the sacred grove referenced in 1176 lombard league against frederick barbarossa. Basically was an annual pilgrimage where you get to participate to a political party that turns it into a ritual. But there is much more, mythology was circulating everywhere, in HS as well, I seen kids with occitania flags for xample.Rather than forcing a national template, it was a coalition of micro identities (Piedmontese, Venetian, Alpine valleys, Occitan enclaves) whose only common trait was "not Rome". As for populist rhetoric, leganord had more of it, they glorified ignorance, dialect above all. People who express themselves in grunts and cant even speak italian were considered heroes who resist homogeneity.M5S instaed suffered from a foundational vulnerability common to modern "pure" populism where they simply appeal to city dwellers. They were talkin about "the caste" or vaguely "the elite", criticize "corruption" as an abstract principle completely immaterial, and they were talking of honesty, dignity, all abstract immaterial as well.Leganord instead invented a land, "padania", even if its largely arbitrary, it was infused with celtic crosses and folklore music and it was working. They also borrowed heavy from risorgimento myth building techniques that created italy on the first place. Because italy is a nation bulit on literature alone. Last advantage of leganord was 100% social mobilization, everyone was doing politics, because politics = perform your identity. Which is why these rural people had that power for a brief period even if they didnt have the numbers.In reallife, the city dwellers outnumber them by a lot. So this to me was a lesson in the power of mythmaking. Seen it reallife, I think it was a great experience.However, it makes me curious. because Leganord later failed and broke promises and became more corrupt than rome. They had power, they got integrated in the same system they were criticizing, they failed. Ok, but later in the 2000s we got the rise of populist politics, reintroduction of left vs right normie jargon and back again to myth of a nation. I dont understand why people didnt learn the lesson. Why did people support m5s? There was already an evidence from 1990 leganord that this type of politics is a farce.Basically populist parties simply shifted from mythology to universal "anti establishment" rhetoric, but they didnt change substantially.</blockquote>

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