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Lifestyle A lot of men arent invisible because theyre unattractive , but because theyre boring

INCEL LIVES MATTER
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A lot of men aren’t invisible because they’re unattractive; they’re invisible because they’re boring.Many men struggle with basic conversation. They can’t present their strengths in a natural or appealing way, and often they lack experiences worth talking about. Their daily lives give others little reason to feel curious or impressed. Fixing this usually means working on two fronts at once. The first—and most important—is learning how to talk to people in general, not just women. Too many young men ask how to talk to girls, but that skips over a more basic skill: learning how to talk to human beings. Conversation is a muscle, and it has to be exercised. That means talking to your friends more and spending more time around other people, full stop. If the only person who will talk to you is your mom, start there and work outward. The point isn’t who you’re talking to, but that you’re talking at all. You need to learn small talk, idle chatter, storytelling, and how to listen and respond—in short, how to be more socially engaged. If you don’t know where to begin, imitation helps. Model yourself on an extroverted person you like—a friend, a writer, a podcaster, even a fictional character. Having a concrete example is often more useful than abstract advice. You don’t need to become fake or cartoonish. Just inch yourself closer to that model. The goal is simple: get comfortable speaking, listening, and responding. Before worrying about the opposite sex, learn how to talk to people.
 
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An addendum -
Some incels (in the colloquial) like to make the anecdote where Chad can be a barely-functioning retarded brick socially and still be successful with women — therefore anything relating to the social domain is negligible.

While that may be true, 'Chad' is top percentile and a statistical outlier — his experiences are irrelevant to the vast majority of people. It's kind of like comparing yourself to individuals on the extreme ends of intelligence or in the top 1% of wealth — tremendously advantageous qualities which one would have been incredibly lucky to have won the dice roll of life in, but it's not something people pathologically obsess over.

Looks is still the primary mode of attraction and the means through which one first gauges whether a person is attractive or not to them. There is something of a 'looks threshold' which exists for both men and women and varies from individual to individual which is essentially binary in option, where 'YES' means passing a particular person's looks threshold and the subject in question's appearance is acceptable enough for that person not to completely reject them and 'NO' for vice-versa.

But this is only the first hurdle. Because facial attractiveness clusters around the mean, unless you have top-percentile looks (and even then they won't act as a master key if one is deficient in other areas, for example), more factors will come into play regarding long-term attractiveness, and attraction in the later stages becomes something that is more multi-faceted and less unitary.

Obviously if you don't pass the looks threshold on a broad scale and you have nothing else to compensate with, it's an uphill battle and it'd be something which leads to chronic singleness.
 
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An addendum -
Some incels (in the colloquial) like to make the anecdote where Chad can be a barely-functioning retarded brick socially and still be successful with women — therefore anything relating to the social domain is negligible.

While that may be true, 'Chad' is top percentile and a statistical outlier — his experiences are irrelevant to the vast majority of people. It's kind of like comparing yourself to individuals on the extreme ends of intelligence or in the top 1% of wealth — tremendously advantageous qualities which one would have been incredibly lucky to have won the dice roll of life in, but it's not something people pathologically obsess over.

Looks is still the primary mode of attraction and the means through which one first gauges whether a person is attractive or not to them. There is something of a 'looks threshold' which exists for both men and women and varies from individual to individual which is essentially binary in option, where 'YES' means passing a particular person's looks threshold and the subject in question's appearance is acceptable enough for that person not to completely reject them and 'NO' for vice-versa.

But this is only the first hurdle. Because facial attractiveness clusters around the mean, unless you have top-percentile looks (and even then they won't act as a master key if one is deficient in other areas, for example), more factors will come into play regarding long-term attractiveness, and attraction in the later stages becomes something that is more multi-faceted and less unitary.

Obviously if you don't pass the looks threshold on a broad scale and you have nothing else to compensate with, it's an uphill battle and it'd be something which leads to chronic singleness.
There was this guy that said Gen Z is like medieval China in the song Dynasty

He was saying that gen Z prizes more value on experiences and vibes rather than material possessions

And there's lack of the third " places " places other than home and workplace
Where people can hang out and socialise.
Which young people in gen Z want to bring back desperately.

Song Dynasty China in the mediaeval age had a 24 / 7 teahouse culture and the professional performers, storytellers and a restaurant culture.

The curated living is similar through cozy games and a iced mocha on a scenic walk.



 
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A lot of men aren’t invisible because they’re unattractive; they’re invisible because they’re boring.Many men struggle with basic conversation. They can’t present their strengths in a natural or appealing way, and often they lack experiences worth talking about. Their daily lives give others little reason to feel curious or impressed. Fixing this usually means working on two fronts at once. The first—and most important—is learning how to talk to people in general, not just women. Too many young men ask how to talk to girls, but that skips over a more basic skill: learning how to talk to human beings. Conversation is a muscle, and it has to be exercised. That means talking to your friends more and spending more time around other people, full stop. If the only person who will talk to you is your mom, start there and work outward. The point isn’t who you’re talking to, but that you’re talking at all. You need to learn small talk, idle chatter, storytelling, and how to listen and respond—in short, how to be more socially engaged. If you don’t know where to begin, imitation helps. Model yourself on an extroverted person you like—a friend, a writer, a podcaster, even a fictional character. Having a concrete example is often more useful than abstract advice. You don’t need to become fake or cartoonish. Just inch yourself closer to that model. The goal is simple: get comfortable speaking, listening, and responding. Before worrying about the opposite sex, learn how to talk to people.
Look, he just found about jestermaxxing, what a chad!

Other than that, good post.
 
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why cant humans be like bees and other animals with mating seasons
Welcome to the real world.

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why do men have to put in all the work and be the ones with so many interesting things to share and say while foids get to be mediocre and boring themselves yet demanding everything from the guy?

thank god for sex trafficking
 
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