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<blockquote data-quote="Lux" data-source="post: 55772" data-attributes="member: 105">yes this is what I saidI mean your definition of child is pretty unique and broad at that point. I&#039;m talking about a pharmaceutical like mifepristoneYou misunderstand I was stating that this happens and this can cause a spontaneous miscarriage- a common occurrence and parallel process to an induced miscarriage (abortion). you can&#039;t treat influenza with antibiotics because it&#039;s a virus. Sorry i meant the embryo (which would be the subject of abortion in the first trimester). The Embryo can definitely implant in the uterus and then be susceptible to further issues from lack of progesterone or random polyp or something. Fun side note they can also be vitrified and kept in storage almost indefinitely which is common in ivf where then many of them are manually transferred into the uterus.the argument: If embryo, then man.Can be expressed as:∀x (E(x) → M(x))E(x): x is an embryoM(x): x is a man (person)Counterexample (miscarriage):∃x (E(x) ∧ ¬M(x))→ Some embryos are not men (they never develop into people).Therefore:The statement “if embryo, then man” is false, because miscarriages show embryos can exist without ever becoming persons.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lux, post: 55772, member: 105"] yes this is what I said I mean your definition of child is pretty unique and broad at that point. I'm talking about a pharmaceutical like [B]mifepristone[/B] You misunderstand I was stating that this happens and this can cause a spontaneous miscarriage- a common occurrence and parallel process to an induced miscarriage (abortion). you can't treat influenza with antibiotics because it's a virus. Sorry i meant the embryo (which would be the subject of abortion in the first trimester). The Embryo can definitely implant in the uterus and then be susceptible to further issues from lack of progesterone or random polyp or something. Fun side note they can also be vitrified and kept in storage almost indefinitely which is common in ivf where then many of them are manually transferred into the uterus. the argument: If embryo, then man. Can be expressed as: ∀x (E(x) → M(x)) E(x): x is an embryo M(x): x is a man (person) Counterexample (miscarriage): ∃x (E(x) ∧ ¬M(x)) → Some embryos are not men (they never develop into people). Therefore: The statement “if embryo, then man” is [B]false[/B], because miscarriages show embryos can exist without ever becoming persons. [/QUOTE]

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