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<blockquote data-quote="porco-dddio" data-source="post: 80554" data-attributes="member: 656">False premise false conclusions false question false answer, false senses constructed thru demoralizing narrative.Only thing &quot;coherent&quot; is aesthetics. The mood, the vibe, the framing and ways in which people feel and the emotional rationalizations are &quot;true&quot; in a sense. The single issues as described by the narrator, the various vibes they reference, that can be real.Doom &gt; relief, confusion &gt; resolution thru narrative. It will also be socially consistent in your environment. Imagine you join a group that talks about accelerationism, criticism of the west, modernity, makes you read giulio ebola, everyone takes it &quot;seriously&quot; and you are given a sense of gravitas around these false notions. Its equivalent of entering D&amp;D like I did, and I could use the LORE and build emotionally compelling arguments within small circles of people who share my same feels and my same inclinations. Doesnt means D&amp;D is true, I go out of a nerd shop, and I cannot bring in society this stuff without being mocked. Also, inside the nerd shop theres multiple lores, not only one, and someone else may be into warhammer. On the internet you get these vibes and you come to think serious face = &quot;this is what a serious thinker sounds like&quot;. Believe me its nothing more than a posture. They do metaphor, reason thru analogy, allow your moral intuition to fill gaps, and the more vague their ideas are the more your mind creates compensation around it, and you engage fantasy to bulid ideas of your own, so you wlil come to think you had all these BS copes arise naturally and you came up with it on your own. After Jordan Peterson (or equivalently as dishonest manipulator) swindles you with christianity, you will think oh my god this interpretation totally resolved the emotional tension. You were made to feel bad, kinda doomery, kinda angered at times. What he (the narrator) did to you was leading you into a trap. You can repeat the framing, talk of decay, women who fucks dogs, onlyfans, repeat repeat, and use the jargon from the false sociology of modernity which creates illusion of authority, and &quot;already heard = true&quot;. People are also persuaded waaay more if ideas are printed on paper gives some sense of &quot;this is authoritative&quot; or if some guy from academia says it &quot;therefore is real&quot;. And what if there are large intellectual currents in academia? Its all the more real, it feels all real. I think is easy to fall for the trap of thinking modernity nonsense is other than nonsense.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="porco-dddio, post: 80554, member: 656"] False premise false conclusions false question false answer, false senses constructed thru demoralizing narrative. Only thing "coherent" is aesthetics. The mood, the vibe, the framing and ways in which people feel and the emotional rationalizations are "true" in a sense. The single issues as described by the narrator, the various vibes they reference, that can be real. Doom > relief, confusion > resolution thru narrative. It will also be socially consistent in your environment. Imagine you join a group that talks about accelerationism, criticism of the west, modernity, makes you read giulio ebola, everyone takes it "seriously" and you are given a sense of gravitas around these false notions. Its equivalent of entering D&D like I did, and I could use the LORE and build emotionally compelling arguments within small circles of people who share my same feels and my same inclinations. Doesnt means D&D is true, I go out of a nerd shop, and I cannot bring in society this stuff without being mocked. Also, inside the nerd shop theres multiple lores, not only one, and someone else may be into warhammer. On the internet you get these vibes and you come to think serious face = "this is what a serious thinker sounds like". Believe me its nothing more than a posture. They do metaphor, reason thru analogy, allow your moral intuition to fill gaps, and the more vague their ideas are the more your mind creates compensation around it, and you engage fantasy to bulid ideas of your own, so you wlil come to think you had all these BS copes arise naturally and you came up with it on your own. After Jordan Peterson (or equivalently as dishonest manipulator) swindles you with christianity, you will think oh my god this interpretation totally resolved the emotional tension. You were made to feel bad, kinda doomery, kinda angered at times. What he (the narrator) did to you was leading you into a trap. You can repeat the framing, talk of decay, women who fucks dogs, onlyfans, repeat repeat, and use the jargon from the false sociology of modernity which creates illusion of authority, and "already heard = true". People are also persuaded waaay more if ideas are printed on paper gives some sense of "this is authoritative" or if some guy from academia says it "therefore is real". And what if there are large intellectual currents in academia? Its all the more real, it feels all real. I think is easy to fall for the trap of thinking modernity nonsense is other than nonsense. [/QUOTE]

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