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<blockquote data-quote="midnightsun" data-source="post: 64652" data-attributes="member: 463"><p>Short answer: **closest MBTI fits would be INTP first, then INTJ (and more distantly INFP)** — with big caveats.</p><p></p><p>Longer, careful answer (because you’re mixing systems that don’t map cleanly):</p><p></p><p>---</p><p></p><p>### First: important caveat</p><p></p><p>What you quoted is **not a personality typology in the MBTI sense**. It’s coming from an **old psychodynamic / adjustment-style framework** (very Millon / Rorschach-influenced), where terms like *introversive*, *autosensuality*, *primitive R orientation*, etc., describe **defensive organization and ego adaptation**, not preferences.</p><p></p><p>So any MBTI mapping is **approximate and metaphorical**, not diagnostic or exact.</p><p></p><p>That said, we *can* talk about “closest phenomenological overlap.”</p><p></p><p>---</p><p></p><p>## Core traits described in the if*u* [IuRcAc]</p><p></p><p>Key features I’m extracting:</p><p></p><p>* Extreme **introversion** (withdrawn, seclusive, self-sufficient)</p><p>* Strong **internal ideational life**</p><p>* Low responsiveness to external stimulation</p><p>* Abstract, contemplative, theoretical thinking</p><p>* Weak interest in social roles, norms, or interpersonal engagement</p><p>* Reality sometimes filtered through highly individualized internal models</p><p>* Comfort in withdrawal (low tension, not anxious about it)</p><p>* Intellectual or mystical sublimation</p><p>* Difficulty translating inner experience to shared language</p><p>* Can drift into fantasy or metaphysical preoccupation</p><p></p><p>That cluster matters more than any single trait.</p><p></p><p>---</p><p></p><p>## Mapping to MBTI dimensions</p><p></p><p>### **Introversion (I)** – very strong <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="✔️" title="Check mark :heavy_check_mark:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/2714.png" data-shortname=":heavy_check_mark:" /></p><p></p><p>This is textbook MBTI Introversion, but **far more extreme** than MBTI usually describes.</p><p></p><p>---</p><p></p><p>### **Intuition (N)** – strong <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="✔️" title="Check mark :heavy_check_mark:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/2714.png" data-shortname=":heavy_check_mark:" /></p><p></p><p>* Abstract</p><p>* Ideational</p><p>* Theoretical</p><p>* Symbolic / metaphysical</p><p>* Detached from concrete external reality at times</p><p></p><p>This is **clearly N**, not S.</p><p></p><p>---</p><p></p><p>### **Thinking vs Feeling**</p><p></p><p>This is where people get tripped up.</p><p></p><p>Even though the text uses *f** language, that is **not MBTI Feeling**. What’s described is:</p><p></p><p>* Internal conscience</p><p>* Guilt from internalized values</p><p>* Ethical tension sublimated into philosophy/religion</p><p></p><p>That actually aligns *better* with **Ti-dominant types** than with MBTI Feeling types.</p><p></p><p>There’s **very little interpersonal empathy, value-expression, or relational attunement**, which are hallmarks of MBTI F.</p><p></p><p><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="➡️" title="Right arrow :arrow_right:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/27a1.png" data-shortname=":arrow_right:" /> **Leans Thinking (T)**</p><p></p><p>---</p><p></p><p>### **Judging vs Perceiving**</p><p></p><p>* Mentally preoccupied</p><p>* Open-ended ideational life</p><p>* Nonconforming</p><p>* Less externally structured</p><p>* More exploratory than goal-driven</p><p></p><p>That points toward **Perceiving (P)** more than Judging.</p><p></p><p>---</p><p></p><p>## Closest MBTI match: **INTP**</p><p></p><p>**INTP** overlaps most strongly with this description:</p><p></p><p>* Dominant **Ti** → self-sufficient inner logical world</p><p>* Auxiliary **Ne (often internalized)** → abstract associations, fantasy, ideation</p><p>* Low external engagement</p><p>* Comfort in mental isolation</p><p>* Difficulty translating inner models to others</p><p>* Can appear detached, aloof, or “elsewhere”</p><p>* At extremes, can resemble schizoid withdrawal</p><p></p><p>This is especially true for **very introverted, under-socialized, or unhealthy INTPs**.</p><p></p><p>---</p><p></p><p>## Secondary fit: **INTJ**</p><p></p><p>INTJ fits if you emphasize:</p><p></p><p>* Intellectual isolation</p><p>* Theoretical depth</p><p>* Self-sufficiency</p><p>* Limited social need</p><p></p><p>But INTJs usually:</p><p></p><p>* Maintain clearer reality-testing</p><p>* Are more externally goal-oriented</p><p>* Retain strategic engagement with the world</p><p></p><p>Your description is **less structured, more internally absorbed**, which pushes it away from classic INTJ.</p><p></p><p>---</p><p></p><p>## Why **not** INFP (mostly)</p><p></p><p>INFPs:</p><p></p><p>* Are value-driven in a relational sense</p><p>* Experience emotion and meaning as central</p><p>* Tend to be *internally intense but interpersonally yearning*</p><p></p><p>The if*u* is:</p><p></p><p>* Emotionally muted</p><p>* Relationally indifferent</p><p>* More cognitive than affective</p><p></p><p>So INFP is possible **only** if the person is unusually detached and intellectualized, but it’s a weaker fit.</p><p></p><p>---</p><p></p><p>## Final takeaway</p><p></p><p>If someone asked, *“What MBTI does this sound like?”* the honest answer is:</p><p></p><p>> **A highly introverted, abstract, internally absorbed type — closest to INTP, sometimes resembling INTJ — but the description actually sits outside MBTI and overlaps more with schizoid-style ego organization than with normal personality preference.**</p><p></p><p>If you want, I can:</p><p></p><p>* Map this more explicitly onto **Jungian functions (Ti/Ne/Ni)**</p><p>* Compare it to **schizoid vs autistic vs avoidant** profiles</p><p>* Or contrast it with **INTP vs INTJ vs INFP** in a side-by-side way</p><p></p><p>Just tell me which angle you want to push.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="midnightsun, post: 64652, member: 463"] Short answer: **closest MBTI fits would be INTP first, then INTJ (and more distantly INFP)** — with big caveats. Longer, careful answer (because you’re mixing systems that don’t map cleanly): --- ### First: important caveat What you quoted is **not a personality typology in the MBTI sense**. It’s coming from an **old psychodynamic / adjustment-style framework** (very Millon / Rorschach-influenced), where terms like *introversive*, *autosensuality*, *primitive R orientation*, etc., describe **defensive organization and ego adaptation**, not preferences. So any MBTI mapping is **approximate and metaphorical**, not diagnostic or exact. That said, we *can* talk about “closest phenomenological overlap.” --- ## Core traits described in the if*u* [IuRcAc] Key features I’m extracting: * Extreme **introversion** (withdrawn, seclusive, self-sufficient) * Strong **internal ideational life** * Low responsiveness to external stimulation * Abstract, contemplative, theoretical thinking * Weak interest in social roles, norms, or interpersonal engagement * Reality sometimes filtered through highly individualized internal models * Comfort in withdrawal (low tension, not anxious about it) * Intellectual or mystical sublimation * Difficulty translating inner experience to shared language * Can drift into fantasy or metaphysical preoccupation That cluster matters more than any single trait. --- ## Mapping to MBTI dimensions ### **Introversion (I)** – very strong ✔️ This is textbook MBTI Introversion, but **far more extreme** than MBTI usually describes. --- ### **Intuition (N)** – strong ✔️ * Abstract * Ideational * Theoretical * Symbolic / metaphysical * Detached from concrete external reality at times This is **clearly N**, not S. --- ### **Thinking vs Feeling** This is where people get tripped up. Even though the text uses *f** language, that is **not MBTI Feeling**. What’s described is: * Internal conscience * Guilt from internalized values * Ethical tension sublimated into philosophy/religion That actually aligns *better* with **Ti-dominant types** than with MBTI Feeling types. There’s **very little interpersonal empathy, value-expression, or relational attunement**, which are hallmarks of MBTI F. ➡️ **Leans Thinking (T)** --- ### **Judging vs Perceiving** * Mentally preoccupied * Open-ended ideational life * Nonconforming * Less externally structured * More exploratory than goal-driven That points toward **Perceiving (P)** more than Judging. --- ## Closest MBTI match: **INTP** **INTP** overlaps most strongly with this description: * Dominant **Ti** → self-sufficient inner logical world * Auxiliary **Ne (often internalized)** → abstract associations, fantasy, ideation * Low external engagement * Comfort in mental isolation * Difficulty translating inner models to others * Can appear detached, aloof, or “elsewhere” * At extremes, can resemble schizoid withdrawal This is especially true for **very introverted, under-socialized, or unhealthy INTPs**. --- ## Secondary fit: **INTJ** INTJ fits if you emphasize: * Intellectual isolation * Theoretical depth * Self-sufficiency * Limited social need But INTJs usually: * Maintain clearer reality-testing * Are more externally goal-oriented * Retain strategic engagement with the world Your description is **less structured, more internally absorbed**, which pushes it away from classic INTJ. --- ## Why **not** INFP (mostly) INFPs: * Are value-driven in a relational sense * Experience emotion and meaning as central * Tend to be *internally intense but interpersonally yearning* The if*u* is: * Emotionally muted * Relationally indifferent * More cognitive than affective So INFP is possible **only** if the person is unusually detached and intellectualized, but it’s a weaker fit. --- ## Final takeaway If someone asked, *“What MBTI does this sound like?”* the honest answer is: > **A highly introverted, abstract, internally absorbed type — closest to INTP, sometimes resembling INTJ — but the description actually sits outside MBTI and overlaps more with schizoid-style ego organization than with normal personality preference.** If you want, I can: * Map this more explicitly onto **Jungian functions (Ti/Ne/Ni)** * Compare it to **schizoid vs autistic vs avoidant** profiles * Or contrast it with **INTP vs INTJ vs INFP** in a side-by-side way Just tell me which angle you want to push. [/QUOTE]
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