Discussion Do NPCs exist in reality?

[GGWP]

There is an emerging trend of labeling people as 'NPCs', however it is to such a point that even people considered typical and well-adjusted would consider themself a sort of fringe outcast and label everybody else as an NPC. In short, everybody wants to be special and they all think they're the main character.

I could hypothesize why one could make the case that certain groups are more 'sentient' than others based on certain brain microbiomes promoting conscious awareness or perhaps certain brain structures nudge individuals into divergent actions/thought patterns, but I wouldn't call this 'more sentient/conscious'. In the first place what does it mean to be 'more conscious'? Is a duck, insect or tree less conscious than a human? I think it is just a different mode of consciousness, if anything. They have different sensory organs and methods of processing. To portray humans as 'more conscious' is pure anthropocentrism unless you believe that consciousness is extra-dimensional. To portray yourself as 'more conscious', I think, is a method of self-deception, it is intended as an anxiety-suppression mechanism. One can say that others are 'NPCs' and immediately this eliminates mental burdens by reducing the perceived level of importance given to interactions with others, rebuffing the ego as an aside - you proclaim that you are a unique thinker, an evolutionary catch! It is a method of keeping stability for those with strong pride and ego. For people that find it hard to interact with others, it's a method to reduce perceived loss.

The whole concept of a 'chosen one' and 'main character' is self-serving and trite but it's ubiquitous in media, in modern times especially this solipsism is baked in by necessity as characters are expressly written with different tiers of complexity to fit the plot. I believe that the effect is more potent in those who scarce interact with others, their internal world is magnified as it is the only significant meta-reality they are frequently in contact with; they do not have the opportunity to peer into the lives of others and dissect their motivations and so falsely exalt their own as unique. This is especially potent in zoomers and perhaps even more so in younger generations as they are the most atomized, lonely and enveloped in hyper-reality, and the media they consume is less concerned with group empathy and more entwined with solipsistic imagery.

Do you believe in the existence of 'NPCs'/'Hylics'/'Automata' and that other people are 'less conscious'? If so, why?

 

[burn]

I mean most of us are different, look at the topics the average normie talks about and stuff they do daily, its like they dont even think like they're stuck in one place and cant move

 

[somethingtobelievein]

To me, "NPC" isn't about diverging or rebelling or conforming, specifically. like you can have an NPC in a game that hates people and is blackpilled or occult or incel or whatever. what makes them an npc is that they have 3 or 4 lines they cycle through when you talk to them, whatever those lines may be. then you talk about updates/patches, like as soon as they hear something new that sounds smart to them thats the thing they repeat.

NPCs can actually be really smart or good at specific stuff. its just that behavior.

But yes people are better than ducks I will die on that hill.

 

[twojei]

There is an emerging trend of labeling people as 'NPCs', however it is to such a point that even people considered typical and well-adjusted would consider themself a sort of fringe outcast and label everybody else as an NPC. In short, everybody wants to be special and they all think they're the main character.

Yes!

I could hypothesize why one could make the case that certain groups are more 'sentient' than others based on certain brain microbiomes promoting conscious awareness or perhaps certain brain structures nudge individuals into divergent actions/thought patterns, but I wouldn't call this 'more sentient/conscious'.

Yes. As an "aspie" myself, I'd say that neurodivergent and neurotypical are the same shit after all jfl. There is no difference. Intelligence withou awareness is completely useless and can become an obstacle.

In the first place what does it mean to be 'more conscious'? Is a duck, insect or tree less conscious than a human? I think it is just a different mode of consciousness, if anything. They have different sensory organs and methods of processing. To portray humans as 'more conscious' is pure anthropocentrism unless you believe that consciousness is extra-dimensional.

Human ego. Why couldn't plants in their sensory organs be more aware than those supposed "conscious humans"?

To portray yourself as 'more conscious', I think, is a method of self-deception, it is intended as an anxiety-suppression mechanism. One can say that others are 'NPCs' and immediately this eliminates mental burdens by reducing the perceived level of importance given to interactions with others, rebuffing the ego as an aside - you proclaim that you are a unique thinker, an evolutionary catch! It is a method of keeping stability for those with strong pride and ego. For people that find it hard to interact with others, it's a method to reduce perceived loss.

Yeah, it is basically a method of avoiding pain by rellabeling other people as "inferior". In realty, considering other people as "inferior" is a confession of inferiority itself because you have to "reduce" them in order for them to not seem intimidating because you fear the possible pain they could cause you. In other words, you fear them and so you consider yourself inferior.

The whole concept of a 'chosen one' and 'main character' is self-serving and trite but it's ubiquitous in media, in modern times especially this solipsism is baked in by necessity as characters are expressly written with different tiers of complexity to fit the plot. I believe that the effect is more potent in those who scarce interact with others, their internal world is magnified as it is the only significant meta-reality they are frequently in contact with; they do not have the opportunity to peer into the lives of others and dissect their motivations and so falsely exalt their own as unique. This is especially potent in zoomers and perhaps even more so in younger generations as they are the most atomized, lonely and enveloped in hyper-reality, and the media they consume is less concerned with group empathy and more entwined with solipsistic imagery.

Yeah, I have realized that we are so caught up in our internal worlds that we believe we are the only "complex" people. In reality, we can learn from anybody in life. Even a baby or plants. It doesn't even have to be "alive".

Do you believe in the existence of 'NPCs'/'Hylics'/'Automata' and that other people are 'less conscious'? If so, why?

Being aware and consciouss is painful at first. That's why everybody is not conscious and do not want to be.

 

[LOOKISM-LOGIC]

Consciousness and awareness only differ in their spelling

 

[vermeulean]

as a matter of course, the entire distinction arises from some value-laden judgement on what sort of neurotype is better calibrated. it's only a problem when people try to treat "awareness" as unilateral... i mean, then it sort of acquires some political scope with which to disbar people who are in disagreement with you.

I could hypothesize why one could make the case that certain groups are more 'sentient' than others based on certain brain microbiomes promoting conscious awareness or perhaps certain brain structures nudge individuals into divergent actions/thought patterns

like here, for instance. if some feature of my neural architecture nudges me toward an outcome-driven decision making procedure, which in arguendo produces optimal real-world payoffs, there will likely be a very strong presumption of awareness which might not reflect any articulable rationale, contrary to cases where people are said to be overthinking it when acting indecisively. since i can't map out your neural architecture or even make sense of how you might think, i'll probably begin to premise the distinction on things that i find value in, and the short-hand tools of psychology create labels for drawing out an easier presumption of awareness.

but obviously not all thinking is completely equal, and some people just don't have anything of value to contribute in terms of their thought. but trying to determine whether or not you fall into the mindless camp is the general trap. requires a leap of faith to answer no, but that's probably better than simply assigning weight to the cattle-branding of the majority...

 

[Indrid]

To me an NPC is just someone who gets all their opinions from youtube video essays and are incapable of forming a proper opinion. This even applies to media, they can't just watch it and form an opinion doing that, they need someone else to tell them what to think. It's incredibly boring to talk to someone who does this.

 

[Mentally Lost Cel]

There is an emerging trend of labeling people as 'NPCs', however it is to such a point that even people considered typical and well-adjusted would consider themself a sort of fringe outcast and label everybody else as an NPC. In short, everybody wants to be special and they all think they're the main character.

I could hypothesize why one could make the case that certain groups are more 'sentient' than others based on certain brain microbiomes promoting conscious awareness or perhaps certain brain structures nudge individuals into divergent actions/thought patterns, but I wouldn't call this 'more sentient/conscious'. In the first place what does it mean to be 'more conscious'? Is a duck, insect or tree less conscious than a human? I think it is just a different mode of consciousness, if anything. They have different sensory organs and methods of processing. To portray humans as 'more conscious' is pure anthropocentrism unless you believe that consciousness is extra-dimensional. To portray yourself as 'more conscious', I think, is a method of self-deception, it is intended as an anxiety-suppression mechanism. One can say that others are 'NPCs' and immediately this eliminates mental burdens by reducing the perceived level of importance given to interactions with others, rebuffing the ego as an aside - you proclaim that you are a unique thinker, an evolutionary catch! It is a method of keeping stability for those with strong pride and ego. For people that find it hard to interact with others, it's a method to reduce perceived loss.

The whole concept of a 'chosen one' and 'main character' is self-serving and trite but it's ubiquitous in media, in modern times especially this solipsism is baked in by necessity as characters are expressly written with different tiers of complexity to fit the plot. I believe that the effect is more potent in those who scarce interact with others, their internal world is magnified as it is the only significant meta-reality they are frequently in contact with; they do not have the opportunity to peer into the lives of others and dissect their motivations and so falsely exalt their own as unique. This is especially potent in zoomers and perhaps even more so in younger generations as they are the most atomized, lonely and enveloped in hyper-reality, and the media they consume is less concerned with group empathy and more entwined with solipsistic imagery.

Do you believe in the existence of 'NPCs'/'Hylics'/'Automata' and that other people are 'less conscious'? If so, why?

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Yes

 

[Forecast]

I believe in NPCs as just listen to their politicial beliefs and observe their voting patterns, don't take a genius to see most people are brainwashed and follow patterns.

 

[Mathiverse]

Iam a npc because i am programmed by my genetic makeup

 

[Deleted member 69]

Anyone that doesn't eat raw meat, works out etc.