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<blockquote data-quote="rentré" data-source="post: 86592" data-attributes="member: 306"><p>I dotted down this text a few days ago and decided not to publish, but Schwarzwald set <a href="https://elysianfields.se/threads/the-true-culture-of-online-space-and-forums.9531" target="_blank">the precedent</a> of evisceration threads and what the hell. To spare sensibilities of concerned parties, let us image that the thread is not about "porco", but "ropco", and he in turn is not Italian, but Portuguese. As will be apparent from the text, it is indeed about "ropco" - in a way fictional characters serve as an amalgam of less fictional people.</p><p></p><p>So, ropco from Portugal. This what I see. </p><p></p><p>1. You're ESL and should keep it in mind. English is generally not something older-gen Europeans from Romance countries understand while growing up (one entertainment of mine is to compare English pronunciation in French songs from <a href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0RbYhwzk3QQ&t=54s" target="_blank">2004</a>, <a href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KZwlG0mZARg&t=67s" target="_blank">2014</a> and <a href="https://sierraveins.bandcamp.com/track/never-right-2" target="_blank">2024</a>) and as someone being in his mid 30s.. That's roughly 2004 era.</p><p></p><p>English wasn't something I understood well in adolescence either (nor in young adulthood), and I acquired knowledge of it for a purpose - that is, to get more stuff that was available in my native language. In effect, tons of people with terribly wonky English nevertheless "make it" in other countries all the while being socially disabled because of their foreign-speak. Comical situation tbh, and the one they could foresee had they had a better grap on languages.</p><p></p><p>2. Even if you, ropco from Portugal, are ESL, I doubt your "presentation" is any different in Portuguese. Writing words next to each other is called being a writer, and writing them willy-nilly equals being a bad writer. Is it about time to bring it home to a mid 30s author? People resort to "slander" not because they read anything, understood it and decided to disagree. They just don't read it; ESL-ism alone being a major factor.</p><p></p><p>Texts containing "ideas" should be parseable, and if they are not there's not enough thought put into it. Anyone reading "smart texts" will mentally ignore anything haphazardly, without structure or at least rhythm to it. That's a basic sign of belonging.</p><p></p><p>3. This is to circle back on point 1 about Romance Europeans and their ESL efforts. A lot of these guys speaking English on the Internet were far from "A" students in English classes and their teachers couldn't foresee the eventuality of <em>that</em> particular student progressing to "advanced" level reading comprehension. Strange how things turn out, right?</p><p></p><p>But for a European, soon enough, <em>English</em> should start feeling suffocating. What the fuck is point of English? Why is it inside main brain? </p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]19064[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>No, no, let me out. If English itself is terrible, ESL prose is square terrible. There is nothing there.</p><p></p><p>4. It's not every day someone writes an essay about your personality; but unfortunately, I have no idea of that. The only way to get one would be to feed your posts into AI summarizer. Piercing the puzzle by other means is quite impossible.</p><p></p><p>Now, the awkward part would be if Italian porco assumed he is Portuguese ropco and decided to answer something in this thread.... This all was meant to get lost in my drafts, because who needs audience.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rentré, post: 86592, member: 306"] I dotted down this text a few days ago and decided not to publish, but Schwarzwald set [url=https://elysianfields.se/threads/the-true-culture-of-online-space-and-forums.9531]the precedent[/url] of evisceration threads and what the hell. To spare sensibilities of concerned parties, let us image that the thread is not about "porco", but "ropco", and he in turn is not Italian, but Portuguese. As will be apparent from the text, it is indeed about "ropco" - in a way fictional characters serve as an amalgam of less fictional people. So, ropco from Portugal. This what I see. 1. You're ESL and should keep it in mind. English is generally not something older-gen Europeans from Romance countries understand while growing up (one entertainment of mine is to compare English pronunciation in French songs from [url=https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0RbYhwzk3QQ&t=54s]2004[/url], [url=https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KZwlG0mZARg&t=67s]2014[/url] and [url=https://sierraveins.bandcamp.com/track/never-right-2]2024[/url]) and as someone being in his mid 30s.. That's roughly 2004 era. English wasn't something I understood well in adolescence either (nor in young adulthood), and I acquired knowledge of it for a purpose - that is, to get more stuff that was available in my native language. In effect, tons of people with terribly wonky English nevertheless "make it" in other countries all the while being socially disabled because of their foreign-speak. Comical situation tbh, and the one they could foresee had they had a better grap on languages. 2. Even if you, ropco from Portugal, are ESL, I doubt your "presentation" is any different in Portuguese. Writing words next to each other is called being a writer, and writing them willy-nilly equals being a bad writer. Is it about time to bring it home to a mid 30s author? People resort to "slander" not because they read anything, understood it and decided to disagree. They just don't read it; ESL-ism alone being a major factor. Texts containing "ideas" should be parseable, and if they are not there's not enough thought put into it. Anyone reading "smart texts" will mentally ignore anything haphazardly, without structure or at least rhythm to it. That's a basic sign of belonging. 3. This is to circle back on point 1 about Romance Europeans and their ESL efforts. A lot of these guys speaking English on the Internet were far from "A" students in English classes and their teachers couldn't foresee the eventuality of [i]that[/i] particular student progressing to "advanced" level reading comprehension. Strange how things turn out, right? But for a European, soon enough, [i]English[/i] should start feeling suffocating. What the fuck is point of English? Why is it inside main brain? [ATTACH type="full"]19064[/ATTACH] No, no, let me out. If English itself is terrible, ESL prose is square terrible. There is nothing there. 4. It's not every day someone writes an essay about your personality; but unfortunately, I have no idea of that. The only way to get one would be to feed your posts into AI summarizer. Piercing the puzzle by other means is quite impossible. Now, the awkward part would be if Italian porco assumed he is Portuguese ropco and decided to answer something in this thread.... This all was meant to get lost in my drafts, because who needs audience. [/QUOTE]
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