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<blockquote data-quote="JayJay" data-source="post: 44138" data-attributes="member: 147">To negate harsh truths? I don&#039;t know. It seems for me that this is all just a process of psychological unravelling that frees from mental suffering, but there is no negation of harsh truths, but a different way of relating to them. I have recognized painful things related to the possiblity of never having a partner, but the thing is that it is all about relationship to these facts. Specially, when you know that there is no center of consciousness in the brain or no central self, so it is all a macinery of different psychological manifestations each with its own motives and difficulties. It is obviously initiated by ego, as it is an attempt at self-preservation, but it works!I see no difference between you and me really. This is everything that I&#039;ve been doing all the time: to &quot;surpass&quot; biological conditioning to not allow my body-mind system to not get into a depressed state just because it cannot fix into the arbitrary standards imposed by nature. To make aware the manifestations of this present conditioning seems to be very similar for me as &quot;to frame them through biologically determined metaheuristics instead of real threats to my being&quot;.I&#039;ve been doing all of this without involvement of metaphysical things. Honestly, non-duality doesn&#039;t require it, and neuroscience validates it too. So that&#039;s good. Plus, I&#039;m a big fan of philosophical pessimism, so I understand the disechanment too![ATTACH=full]7356[/ATTACH]-UG Krishnamurti</blockquote>

[QUOTE="JayJay, post: 44138, member: 147"] To negate harsh truths? I don't know. It seems for me that this is all just a process of psychological unravelling that frees from mental suffering, but there is no negation of harsh truths, but a different way of relating to them. I have recognized painful things related to the possiblity of never having a partner, but the thing is that it is all about relationship to these facts. Specially, when you know that there is no center of consciousness in the brain or no central self, so it is all a macinery of different psychological manifestations each with its own motives and difficulties. It is obviously initiated by ego, as it is an attempt at self-preservation, but it works! I see no difference between you and me really. This is everything that I've been doing all the time: to "surpass" biological conditioning to not allow my body-mind system to not get into a depressed state just because it cannot fix into the arbitrary standards imposed by nature. To make aware the manifestations of this present conditioning seems to be very similar for me as "to frame them through biologically determined metaheuristics instead of real threats to my being". I've been doing all of this without involvement of metaphysical things. Honestly, non-duality doesn't require it, and neuroscience validates it too. So that's good. Plus, I'm a big fan of philosophical pessimism, so I understand the disechanment too! [ATTACH type="full"]7356[/ATTACH] -UG Krishnamurti [/QUOTE]

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