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<blockquote data-quote="JayJay" data-source="post: 46046" data-attributes="member: 147">Coming back to what you wrote here, reflecting about it, and contemplating the realities of biological determinism... it all becomes very weird you know? I think that the biological and the psychological frameworks are very important in regards to this: &quot;we are both engaging in moral relativism in order to surpass our past traumas, but yours has a spiritual element whereas I pursue rigid materialism because I&#039;m disenchanted and can&#039;t imagine a spiritual element in my life.&quot; It really leaves me thinking: what are humans really looking for?There is thing that happened in my life and it can be analyzed through both of these frameworks. I developed feelings for some girl, and I couldn&#039;t get with her. From the biological point of view the animal in me became crazy and it all goes back to &quot;I can&#039;t breed&quot;, but at the same time, if you evaluate this from the psychological point of view, you realize that there were certain heavy ass mommy issues projections that I made onto her, and that specifically contributted to making that attraction more intense.I wrote something about the &quot;uselessness&quot; of consciousness once: I agree that at the end of the day, everything rests on an inevitable biological background, but this faculty called &quot;consciousness&quot; makes things a little bit more complicated than that sometimes, but at the psychological level.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="JayJay, post: 46046, member: 147"] Coming back to what you wrote here, reflecting about it, and contemplating the realities of biological determinism... it all becomes very weird you know? I think that the biological and the psychological frameworks are very important in regards to this: [I]"we are both engaging in moral relativism in order to surpass our past traumas, but yours has a spiritual element whereas I pursue rigid materialism because I'm disenchanted and can't imagine a spiritual element in my life." [/I] It really leaves me thinking: what are humans really looking for? There is thing that happened in my life and it can be analyzed through both of these frameworks. I developed feelings for some girl, and I couldn't get with her. From the biological point of view the animal in me became crazy and it all goes back to "I can't breed", but at the same time, if you evaluate this from the psychological point of view, you realize that there were certain heavy ass mommy issues projections that I made onto her, and that specifically contributted to making that attraction more intense. I wrote something about the "uselessness" of consciousness once: I agree that at the end of the day, everything rests on an inevitable biological background, but this faculty called "consciousness" makes things a little bit more complicated than that sometimes, [I]but at the psychological level.[/I] [/QUOTE]

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