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<blockquote data-quote="Schwarzwald" data-source="post: 72874" data-attributes="member: 544"><p>I appreciate you taking the time to actually engage with the questions this is the kind of exchange I was after.</p><p></p><p>Let me clarify where I’m coming from, because I think we’re circling the same territory from different angles.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: rgb(97, 189, 109)"><strong>On symbols:</strong></span></p><p>I don’t think they have inherent power, but I do think they can act as <em>funnels</em>. A sigil, a cross, a pentagram—they don’t contain energy, but they <em>direct</em> it, like a lens focuses light. If a symbol has been used heavily, it might carry some residual charge (like a groove worn in), but that’s still just a tool, not a battery. That’s why I can read <em>Sitra Achra</em> without feeling “cursed”—I’m studying the architecture of the funnel, not drinking from it.</p><p></p><p><strong><strong><span style="color: rgb(243, 121, 52)">On atheist occultists:</span></strong></strong></p><p>I’m not an atheist, but I’m also not a believer in the traditional sense. I hold it in superposition: maybe it’s all psychological, maybe it’s touching something real but outside our frame, maybe both. That’s why I’m less interested in <em>whether</em> it works than in <em>what people do</em> with the texts. The books are maps; I want to see how different people read them.</p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)">On timing / moon:</span></strong></p><p>The physics of tides and eclipses is wild i’m with you there. The “instinct not to stare” feels more like folklore to me, but folklore often points to patterns people noticed before they had words for them. I’ll keep it in mind.</p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: rgb(147, 101, 184)">On text vs. posture:</span></strong></p><p>We probably won’t agree on whether the symbols themselves carry weight independent of the reader. That’s fine—it’s a fundamental split. But I respect that you’re coming at it from a place of genuine concern rather than just gatekeeping.</p><p></p><p>Thanks for the conversation. If you ever want to dig into <em>why</em> different people read the same text so differently hit me up.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">P.S</span>. In the end I put out some feelers to gauge engagement and people’s perspectives. It’s been limited but <span style="color: rgb(250, 197, 28)">elucidating</span>.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]14414[/ATTACH]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Schwarzwald, post: 72874, member: 544"] I appreciate you taking the time to actually engage with the questions this is the kind of exchange I was after. Let me clarify where I’m coming from, because I think we’re circling the same territory from different angles. [COLOR=rgb(97, 189, 109)][B]On symbols:[/B][/COLOR] I don’t think they have inherent power, but I do think they can act as [I]funnels[/I]. A sigil, a cross, a pentagram—they don’t contain energy, but they [I]direct[/I] it, like a lens focuses light. If a symbol has been used heavily, it might carry some residual charge (like a groove worn in), but that’s still just a tool, not a battery. That’s why I can read [I]Sitra Achra[/I] without feeling “cursed”—I’m studying the architecture of the funnel, not drinking from it. [B][B][COLOR=rgb(243, 121, 52)]On atheist occultists:[/COLOR][/B][/B] I’m not an atheist, but I’m also not a believer in the traditional sense. I hold it in superposition: maybe it’s all psychological, maybe it’s touching something real but outside our frame, maybe both. That’s why I’m less interested in [I]whether[/I] it works than in [I]what people do[/I] with the texts. The books are maps; I want to see how different people read them. [B][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)]On timing / moon:[/COLOR][/B] The physics of tides and eclipses is wild i’m with you there. The “instinct not to stare” feels more like folklore to me, but folklore often points to patterns people noticed before they had words for them. I’ll keep it in mind. [B][COLOR=rgb(147, 101, 184)]On text vs. posture:[/COLOR][/B] We probably won’t agree on whether the symbols themselves carry weight independent of the reader. That’s fine—it’s a fundamental split. But I respect that you’re coming at it from a place of genuine concern rather than just gatekeeping. Thanks for the conversation. If you ever want to dig into [I]why[/I] different people read the same text so differently hit me up. [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]P.S[/COLOR]. In the end I put out some feelers to gauge engagement and people’s perspectives. It’s been limited but [COLOR=rgb(250, 197, 28)]elucidating[/COLOR]. [ATTACH type="full" alt="1740574015077078.jpg"]14414[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]
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