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<blockquote data-quote="Ishmael" data-source="post: 73147" data-attributes="member: 532">Something very interesting about this pattern you&#039;re noticing; the vast majority stem from Gnosticism. Most people aren&#039;t aware of how old Gnosticism is and how it grew up at the same time that early Christianity did before the institutional takeover of Rome. Most people do however know that Thomas is considered one of the fathers of Gnosticism because of how many Gnostic texts have him as the center and claimed author with no validation, even less than any true biblical text alongside their lack of contextual alignment with that of the Gospels. The true origin was likely around the same time period of the development of the traditional gospels but could have even started at the time of Jesus.Kabbalah, while an attempt at being a descendent of ancient Hebrew &#039;Merkavah/Merkabah&#039; is really just a rabbinic/talmudic Judastic take on Gnosticism, for example. Thus, anything that uses Kabbalah as its basis circumstantially will be Gnostic in spirit. The main patterns you see are the godly spark in humans (Nitzotz (נִיצוֹץ)), the demiurge concept in general (Kabbalah has, funnily enough, the Sitra Achra (סִטְרָא אַחֲרָא), which means &#039;other side&#039; where evil resides. They expanded it into a place.), Archons (Klipot (קְלִיפּוֹת)), prison planet (Olam HaAssiyah/World of Action (עוֹלָם הָעֲשִׂיָּה)), reincarnation (Gilgul (גִּלְגּוּל)), etc. with one or more changed/removed/etc. to fir their new flavor. Usually that is the creator/demiurge part as it&#039;s the easiest to debate, as the rest seem to be something that is visible to most everyone independently. Their ideas converge on the same couple of concepts and they appear to be mostly true.Obviously in the specifics is where most of these stop converging but their origins are from two places; Gnosticism and a Spiritual Lens of Reality.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ishmael, post: 73147, member: 532"] Something very interesting about this pattern you're noticing; the vast majority stem from Gnosticism. Most people aren't aware of how [I]old[/I] Gnosticism is and how it grew up at the same time that early Christianity did before the institutional takeover of Rome. Most people do however know that Thomas is considered one of the fathers of Gnosticism because of how many Gnostic texts have him as the center and claimed author with no validation, even less than any true biblical text alongside their lack of contextual alignment with that of the Gospels. The true origin was likely around the same time period of the development of the traditional gospels but could have even started at the time of Jesus. Kabbalah, while an attempt at being a descendent of ancient Hebrew 'Merkavah/Merkabah' is really just a rabbinic/talmudic Judastic take on Gnosticism, for example. Thus, anything that uses Kabbalah as its basis circumstantially will be Gnostic in spirit. The main patterns you see are the godly spark in humans ([B]Nitzotz[/B] (נִיצוֹץ)), the demiurge concept in general (Kabbalah has, funnily enough, the [B]Sitra Achra[/B] (סִטְרָא אַחֲרָא), which means 'other side' where evil resides. They expanded it into a place.), Archons ([B]Klipot[/B] (קְלִיפּוֹת)), prison planet ([B]Olam HaAssiyah/World of Action[/B] (עוֹלָם הָעֲשִׂיָּה)), reincarnation ([B]Gilgul[/B] (גִּלְגּוּל)), etc. with one or more changed/removed/etc. to fir their new flavor. Usually that is the creator/demiurge part as it's the easiest to debate, as the rest seem to be something that is visible to most everyone independently. Their ideas converge on the same couple of concepts and they appear to be mostly true. Obviously in the specifics is where most of these stop converging but their origins are from two places; Gnosticism and a Spiritual Lens of Reality. [/QUOTE]

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