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<blockquote data-quote="Ishmael" data-source="post: 73205" data-attributes="member: 532">I wasn&#039;t trying to insinuate that Gnosticism as a concept came FROM Christianity, just that it has significant ties. The implication given from what I&#039;ve said specifically was that there was observable truth in the framework which is why everyone picks up on the same stuff when they make their own flavor. I would wager 99% of new theologies are someone thinking they found some of the truth and rewording it/changing it to sound more unique to their opinions.So if you&#039;re trying to claim that I myself claimed that Gnosticism is completely derived from Christianity; you are false. I wasn&#039;t trying to and would never claim it, just that it&#039;s the pathway that lead to not only Gnosticism&#039;s spread throughout the world (being married to Christianity) but also the modern popularity due to how far it actually reached before it went underground.Gnostic ideas exist. Christ comes along, many gnostics attach Him to it. Thomas becomes &#039;Father of Gnosticism&#039;. It spreads alongside Christianity until it gets slowly buried, allowing many occult practices to come up from those seeds. Now that the originals have resurfaced, we see how much influence it really had.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ishmael, post: 73205, member: 532"] I wasn't trying to insinuate that Gnosticism as a concept came FROM Christianity, just that it has significant ties. The implication given from what I've said specifically was that there was observable truth in the framework which is why everyone picks up on the same stuff when they make their own flavor. I would wager 99% of new theologies are someone thinking they found some of the truth and rewording it/changing it to sound more unique to their opinions. So if you're trying to claim that I myself claimed that Gnosticism is completely derived from Christianity; you are false. I wasn't trying to and would never claim it, just that it's the pathway that lead to not only Gnosticism's spread throughout the world (being married to Christianity) but also the modern popularity due to how far it actually reached before it went underground. Gnostic ideas exist. Christ comes along, many gnostics attach Him to it. Thomas becomes 'Father of Gnosticism'. It spreads alongside Christianity until it gets slowly buried, allowing many occult practices to come up from those seeds. Now that the originals have resurfaced, we see how much influence it really had. [/QUOTE]

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