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<blockquote data-quote="Ishmael" data-source="post: 73210" data-attributes="member: 532"><p>[USER=544]@Schwarzwald[/USER] I compiled your questions into these 3 because I found it difficult to reply to the post.</p><p></p><p><strong>1. The convergence question </strong>The evidence that I have seen through my studies points to there being an observable truth to reality outside of the physical; some people are capable of noticing this and they write it down. Traditions are then created based on things that only one or a few people understood.</p><p></p><p>In my personal opinion, it would appear that God revealed Himself to multiple peoples and only one was so stubborn that they refused to change what was written; only what it meant. Every other nation chose to make themselves gods or wield the power of God in some way for their own benefit, had a great nation through that physical power, and then...</p><p></p><p>Psalm 82 — "God stands in the congregation; He judges among the gods. How long will you judge unjustly, and show favoritism to the wicked? Selah. Judge the poor and fatherless; justify the afflicted and needy. Deliver the poor and needy; free them from the hand of the wicked. They do not know, nor do they understand. They walk about in darkness; all the foundations of the earth are unstable. I said, 'You are gods, and all of you are children of the Most High. But you will die like men, and fall like one of the princes.' Arise, O God, judge the earth; for You will inherit all nations."</p><p></p><p>I think that most attempts to reconstruct the information they have left behind results in more assumption and creation than it does of recovery.</p><p></p><p>To be plain; Simultaneously all, for varying reasons at different points across history.</p><p></p><p><strong>2. The dissolution problem </strong>My self only begins to truly dissolve the more immersed in the Spirit I am and the more Christ shines through me; but I still retain my agency and myself in general. Creation would be pointless if we did not have uniqueness. It is through that you can reach more people, as it represents the physical experience necessary for trust. You aren't just taking a random man's warnings at face value; he's a warrior with battle scars. The path ends in a complete willingness of unity with God but it also requires full understanding of what He wants from you and what 'the point' is. I don't have the best answer for that but the ones I heard from Institutional Christianity were never good enough.</p><p></p><p>"Why am I this one" in the true Christ framework is solved by being given an overarching purpose of sharing the Good News, but then through individual purpose and guidance to a larger role. It might seem lowly to you, but nothing is lowly in the eyes of God. You should no longer question your placement due to it being aligned correctly, but also your purpose is fulfilled so you no longer have to ask it anyways.</p><p></p><p><strong>3. The Zephaniah point </strong>The circumstances change things a bit. The main truth behind what I was saying is the truthful and genuine willingness to do something like deny temptation in the wilderness. The conviction must be true and full. That is the constant among these people; some examples just had less baggage between themselves and Christ. Your individual instruction is given when you make the decision to call upon His name; and then you must listen. It doesn't matter what your instruction is, or how badly you might not <em>want</em> to do it, you must be <em>willing</em>. The perhaps is also a commentary on the personal feeling. The burden of proof is on the actions of the person and lifted by the comments of the crowd. The man himself cannot claim anything. You will, from your perspective, always be "not quite the best saint" but to others, you could be the model and then more.</p><p></p><p>And you know what? The wilderness does not have to be literal. You must be willing to battle every single step up the ladder of temptation until Satan himself is tempting you and you still deny him. The transformation through denial (which is a point of and makes up the symbolism of fasting).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's exactly where I started. I just wanted to know the truth; anything else can come afterwards. I <strong>had </strong>to know. Christ had the answers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ishmael, post: 73210, member: 532"] [USER=544]@Schwarzwald[/USER] I compiled your questions into these 3 because I found it difficult to reply to the post. [B]1. The convergence question [/B]The evidence that I have seen through my studies points to there being an observable truth to reality outside of the physical; some people are capable of noticing this and they write it down. Traditions are then created based on things that only one or a few people understood. In my personal opinion, it would appear that God revealed Himself to multiple peoples and only one was so stubborn that they refused to change what was written; only what it meant. Every other nation chose to make themselves gods or wield the power of God in some way for their own benefit, had a great nation through that physical power, and then... Psalm 82 — "God stands in the congregation; He judges among the gods. How long will you judge unjustly, and show favoritism to the wicked? Selah. Judge the poor and fatherless; justify the afflicted and needy. Deliver the poor and needy; free them from the hand of the wicked. They do not know, nor do they understand. They walk about in darkness; all the foundations of the earth are unstable. I said, 'You are gods, and all of you are children of the Most High. But you will die like men, and fall like one of the princes.' Arise, O God, judge the earth; for You will inherit all nations." I think that most attempts to reconstruct the information they have left behind results in more assumption and creation than it does of recovery. To be plain; Simultaneously all, for varying reasons at different points across history. [B]2. The dissolution problem [/B]My self only begins to truly dissolve the more immersed in the Spirit I am and the more Christ shines through me; but I still retain my agency and myself in general. Creation would be pointless if we did not have uniqueness. It is through that you can reach more people, as it represents the physical experience necessary for trust. You aren't just taking a random man's warnings at face value; he's a warrior with battle scars. The path ends in a complete willingness of unity with God but it also requires full understanding of what He wants from you and what 'the point' is. I don't have the best answer for that but the ones I heard from Institutional Christianity were never good enough. "Why am I this one" in the true Christ framework is solved by being given an overarching purpose of sharing the Good News, but then through individual purpose and guidance to a larger role. It might seem lowly to you, but nothing is lowly in the eyes of God. You should no longer question your placement due to it being aligned correctly, but also your purpose is fulfilled so you no longer have to ask it anyways. [B]3. The Zephaniah point [/B]The circumstances change things a bit. The main truth behind what I was saying is the truthful and genuine willingness to do something like deny temptation in the wilderness. The conviction must be true and full. That is the constant among these people; some examples just had less baggage between themselves and Christ. Your individual instruction is given when you make the decision to call upon His name; and then you must listen. It doesn't matter what your instruction is, or how badly you might not [I]want[/I] to do it, you must be [I]willing[/I]. The perhaps is also a commentary on the personal feeling. The burden of proof is on the actions of the person and lifted by the comments of the crowd. The man himself cannot claim anything. You will, from your perspective, always be "not quite the best saint" but to others, you could be the model and then more. And you know what? The wilderness does not have to be literal. You must be willing to battle every single step up the ladder of temptation until Satan himself is tempting you and you still deny him. The transformation through denial (which is a point of and makes up the symbolism of fasting). That's exactly where I started. I just wanted to know the truth; anything else can come afterwards. I [B]had [/B]to know. Christ had the answers. [/QUOTE]
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