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<blockquote data-quote="GGWP" data-source="post: 40397" data-attributes="member: 93">I don&#039;t think it&#039;s a coincidence that &#039;Herbivore men&#039;, &#039;MGTOW&#039;, &#039;4B&#039; and the like are exploding in popularity after Neo-Malthusian sentiment skyrocketed post-80s.I think they are copers... Overall though I would say it represents atomization and social defeat rather than genuine expression of will. From what I see &#039;Herbivore&#039; males are males defeated in intra-sexual competition, or they are deprived of social opportunity to the extent that their life is a tragedy with no opportunity to even develop the desire to court: an Omega.Having strong opinions is a sign you are invested in the world. Chauvinist tryhards can be irritating, but they are more endearing than a herbivore too psychologically conquered to express his own feelings or desires; I think we will be seeing a lot more of the latter as social stressors accelerate social defeat well into the (20)30s and 40s.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GGWP, post: 40397, member: 93"] I don't think it's a coincidence that 'Herbivore men', 'MGTOW', '4B' and the like are exploding in popularity after Neo-Malthusian sentiment skyrocketed post-80s. I think they are copers... Overall though I would say it represents atomization and social defeat rather than genuine expression of will. From what I see 'Herbivore' males are males defeated in intra-sexual competition, or they are deprived of social opportunity to the extent that their life is a tragedy with no opportunity to even develop the desire to court: an Omega. Having strong opinions is a sign you are invested in the world. Chauvinist tryhards can be irritating, but they are more endearing than a herbivore too psychologically conquered to express his own feelings or desires; I think we will be seeing a lot more of the latter as social stressors accelerate social defeat well into the (20)30s and 40s. [/QUOTE]

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