Discussion How do you find something of interest?

[Rikoel]

From what I gathered, I see a big talking point of whitepill is to maximize enjoyment in life. This can be a through many outlets, but mainly by activities. But my issue comes from not having any activity that instinctively interests me. There is always some underlying motive behind it. Be it social networking, impressing someone or improving one's standing on the dating market. Where by further analysis, everything always converges to the latter one.

I hardly can see any long-term meaningful fulfillment in indulging to any of these activities. My biology will always dictate my actions towards reproduction, be it disguised in these copes. By knowing the blackpill those will have negligible effect on that goal.

This has further lowered my motivation and interest in anything I do. Yet, I still go to the gym, take random walks, play online chess, and read random stuff on the internet. But these given activities never fulfill me, and I believe they ultimately can't.

I'm also a student(math), which I only picked as my parents have a strong mathematical background, masters and PhD. And one of my only friend is really interested in this topic. I was hoping to start at the same place as him, but sadly he didn't score high enough on the entrance exams and went to a different uni. Which left me here, where I currently reside.

Sadly I despise this field, as I see it nothing as a meaningless cope. I only study enough to pass exams, thus my grades are not great. I lack the motivation and believe I will never see anything beautiful in it, what for example my friend and other students "might" see.

Given my lack of enjoyment in these activities you might concur I'm depressed and need help, but weirdly enough this isn't the case. My baseline dopamine is mediocre and I don't feel sad. But I don't feel fulfilled. That is the core problem of my life currently, and I have no idea on how to overcome this.

Maybe I'm simplistic. Maybe I'm too narrowly focused on this biological framework. I'm not sure.

Have you guys found stuff that truly interests you? Does it really make life fulfilling? Or are we just intellectualizing our suffering, reframing it into yet a another hierarchy to conquer.

 

[twojei]

From what I gathered, I see a big talking point of whitepill is to maximize enjoyment in life. This can be a through many outlets, but mainly by activities. But my issue comes from not having any activity that instinctively interests me. There is always some underlying motive behind it. Be it social networking, impressing someone or improving one's standing on the dating market. Where by further analysis, everything always converges to the latter one.

I hardly can see any long-term meaningful fulfillment in indulging to any of these activities. My biology will always dictate my actions towards reproduction, be it disguised in these copes. By knowing the blackpill those will have negligible effect on that goal.

This has further lowered my motivation and interest in anything I do. Yet, I still go to the gym, take random walks, play online chess, and read random stuff on the internet. But these given activities never fulfill me, and I believe they ultimately can't.

I'm also a student(math), which I only picked as my parents have a strong mathematical background, masters and PhD. And one of my only friend is really interested in this topic. I was hoping to start at the same place as him, but sadly he didn't score high enough on the entrance exams and went to a different uni. Which left me here, where I currently reside.

Sadly I despise this field, as I see it nothing as a meaningless cope. I only study enough to pass exams, thus my grades are not great. I lack the motivation and believe I will never see anything beautiful in it, what for example my friend and other students "might" see.

Given my lack of enjoyment in these activities you might concur I'm depressed and need help, but weirdly enough this isn't the case. My baseline dopamine is mediocre and I don't feel sad. But I don't feel fulfilled. That is the core problem of my life currently, and I have no idea on how to overcome this.

Maybe I'm simplistic. Maybe I'm too narrowly focused on this biological framework. I'm not sure.

Have you guys found stuff that truly interests you? Does it really make life fulfilling? Or are we just intellectualizing our suffering, reframing it into yet a another hierarchy to conquer.

what about this

Personal Experience - Connecting with my emotions.

I didn't know about the deep emotional world hidden within me, and all the things that were concealed under so many pretexts. As a man, I often wished I were a woman, thinking that only women were allowed to feel intensely. Many times, while consuming weed, the judgmental thought would come...

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[Tabula Rasa]

From what I gathered, I see a big talking point of whitepill is to maximize enjoyment in life. This can be a through many outlets, but mainly by activities. But my issue comes from not having any activity that instinctively interests me. There is always some underlying motive behind it. Be it social networking, impressing someone or improving one's standing on the dating market. Where by further analysis, everything always converges to the latter one.

I hardly can see any long-term meaningful fulfillment in indulging to any of these activities. My biology will always dictate my actions towards reproduction, be it disguised in these copes. By knowing the blackpill those will have negligible effect on that goal.

This has further lowered my motivation and interest in anything I do. Yet, I still go to the gym, take random walks, play online chess, and read random stuff on the internet. But these given activities never fulfill me, and I believe they ultimately can't.

I'm also a student(math), which I only picked as my parents have a strong mathematical background, masters and PhD. And one of my only friend is really interested in this topic. I was hoping to start at the same place as him, but sadly he didn't score high enough on the entrance exams and went to a different uni. Which left me here, where I currently reside.

Sadly I despise this field, as I see it nothing as a meaningless cope. I only study enough to pass exams, thus my grades are not great. I lack the motivation and believe I will never see anything beautiful in it, what for example my friend and other students "might" see.

Given my lack of enjoyment in these activities you might concur I'm depressed and need help, but weirdly enough this isn't the case. My baseline dopamine is mediocre and I don't feel sad. But I don't feel fulfilled. That is the core problem of my life currently, and I have no idea on how to overcome this.

Maybe I'm simplistic. Maybe I'm too narrowly focused on this biological framework. I'm not sure.

Have you guys found stuff that truly interests you? Does it really make life fulfilling? Or are we just intellectualizing our suffering, reframing it into yet a another hierarchy to conquer.

The Whitepill is not just finding an activity to occupy yourself with although that is one facet of it. Broadly speaking, the main ethos of the Whitepill is to be pragmatic and analytical in evaluating one's life holistically, and how an individual should proceed going forth in light of their own personal circumstances.

It's about making optimal changes and improvements to your lifestyle which result in positive life outcomes for your situation.

While doing activities you enjoy are one aspect of the Whitepill, the Whitepill also encompasses other things like changing your daily routine, improving the environment around you and keeping your mental state well-managed.

As for your question, I recommend working on your own projects or learning new skills, which can be very personally fulfilling.

 

[Tabula Rasa]

Maybe I'm too narrowly focused on this biological framework. I'm not sure.

I've written a thread before about my views surrounding this. Maybe you'll find the perspective interesting.

Discussion - On Anti-natalism, Biological Dependencies, Celibacy.

While I'm not an ardent Anti-natalist, it's a position that I have moved strongly towards in recent years. The notion of an individual desiring not to have children does have some merit, and it's an idea that some of you may resonate with depending on your own experiences. The sexual impulse is...

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[クーロ]

I never found anything that fulfilling. I just kept going with my "copes" until they became an innate part of what I find enjoyable. For something to be fulfilling to me it only needs to keep me at a baseline dopamine level long enough and they tend to work for the most part. Having zero fulfillment in most things doesn't necessarily bother me because it means I'm always on a new path. Always looking for new gratifications from everywhere I can find which is both good and bad. I'm not particularly adept at any specific field, nor do I spend enough time with any of them to be considered experienced, but who cares? It's fun and I have no obligation to anyone but myself. As long as these experiences are personal and don't affect my behaviour towards others it doesn't matter how genuine I am towards them. All behaviour in life is a matter of LARP. A genuinely passionate person would commit suicide in most cases

 

[Rikoel]

I never found anything that fulfilling. I just kept going with my "copes" until they became an innate part of what I find enjoyable. For something to be fulfilling to me it only needs to keep me at a baseline dopamine level long enough and they tend to work for the most part. Having zero fulfillment in most things doesn't necessarily bother me because it means I'm always on a new path. Always looking for new gratifications from everywhere I can find which is both good and bad. I'm not particularly adept at any specific field, nor do I spend enough time with any of them to be considered experienced, but who cares? It's fun and I have no obligation to anyone but myself. As long as these experiences are personal and don't affect my behaviour towards others it doesn't matter how genuine I am towards them. All behaviour in life is a matter of LARP. A genuinely passionate person would commit suicide in most cases

I used to be depressed and saw nothing to strive for, this was until I got to my first relationship few years back. That really opened my eyes, as I got to experience a whole new world, I was truly fulfilled. It was something I always wanted. But this came to an end a bit over year ago, and essentially I see the world way differently than I used to. I now know what fulfillment feels like, it's something very real and attainable. But I can't seem to find it in any other source than this. Or I have never felt it before. Currently I'm at peace of my situation, but there is this hollow feeling underneath it all.

 

[クーロ]

I used to be depressed and saw nothing to strive for, this was until I got to my first relationship few years back. That really opened my eyes, as I got to experience a whole new world, I was truly fulfilled. It was something I always wanted. But this came to an end a bit over year ago, and essentially I see the world way differently than I used to. I now know what fulfillment feels like, it's something very real and attainable. But I can't seem to find it in any other source than this. Or I have never felt it before. Currently I'm at peace of my situation, but there is this hollow feeling underneath it all.

Once you experience something intense you spend the rest of your life trying to replicate it but that will never happen. Even if you experience another relationship it'll most likely feel less intense/engaging than your first one. I think it's best to completely remove that experience from your mind before looking for any new type of gratification because you'll end up with a subconscious inclination to comparisons. It only feels less fulfilling because you're comparing it to something that was once attainable but no longer is. Your first bite of a sandwich is always more flavourful than the last one and that is natural, expecting each bite to give the same level of flavour is where frustration begins. Just let go bro

 

[クーロ]

rather read Vajrayana and Theravada Buddhism. The Chinese cannon spends a lot of time discussing the nature of the universe and the connection of desire to it. It's a much better philosophy than whatever you'd find from an online forum. Ray Peat also made some comments about how desire itself isn't bad but that attainment of it. You can find the different cannons online but they're very long. Some 10k+ pages. Just pick the parts that sound most appealing

 

[LOOKISM-LOGIC]

From what I gathered, I see a big talking point of whitepill is to maximize enjoyment in life. This can be a through many outlets, but mainly by activities. But my issue comes from not having any activity that instinctively interests me. There is always some underlying motive behind it. Be it social networking, impressing someone or improving one's standing on the dating market. Where by further analysis, everything always converges to the latter one.

I hardly can see any long-term meaningful fulfillment in indulging to any of these activities. My biology will always dictate my actions towards reproduction, be it disguised in these copes. By knowing the blackpill those will have negligible effect on that goal.

This has further lowered my motivation and interest in anything I do. Yet, I still go to the gym, take random walks, play online chess, and read random stuff on the internet. But these given activities never fulfill me, and I believe they ultimately can't.

I'm also a student(math), which I only picked as my parents have a strong mathematical background, masters and PhD. And one of my only friend is really interested in this topic. I was hoping to start at the same place as him, but sadly he didn't score high enough on the entrance exams and went to a different uni. Which left me here, where I currently reside.

Sadly I despise this field, as I see it nothing as a meaningless cope. I only study enough to pass exams, thus my grades are not great. I lack the motivation and believe I will never see anything beautiful in it, what for example my friend and other students "might" see.

Given my lack of enjoyment in these activities you might concur I'm depressed and need help, but weirdly enough this isn't the case. My baseline dopamine is mediocre and I don't feel sad. But I don't feel fulfilled. That is the core problem of my life currently, and I have no idea on how to overcome this.

Maybe I'm simplistic. Maybe I'm too narrowly focused on this biological framework. I'm not sure.

Have you guys found stuff that truly interests you? Does it really make life fulfilling? Or are we just intellectualizing our suffering, reframing it into yet a another hierarchy to conquer.

Something falls from the sky and occupies you and blessing of such a nature occur, if not just lie down, ideally in some natural space and wait..

Nothing ever happens pill is brutal.

 

[Myst]

From what I gathered, I see a big talking point of whitepill is to maximize enjoyment in life. This can be a through many outlets, but mainly by activities. But my issue comes from not having any activity that instinctively interests me. There is always some underlying motive behind it. Be it social networking, impressing someone or improving one's standing on the dating market. Where by further analysis, everything always converges to the latter one.

I hardly can see any long-term meaningful fulfillment in indulging to any of these activities. My biology will always dictate my actions towards reproduction, be it disguised in these copes. By knowing the blackpill those will have negligible effect on that goal.

This has further lowered my motivation and interest in anything I do. Yet, I still go to the gym, take random walks, play online chess, and read random stuff on the internet. But these given activities never fulfill me, and I believe they ultimately can't.

I'm also a student(math), which I only picked as my parents have a strong mathematical background, masters and PhD. And one of my only friend is really interested in this topic. I was hoping to start at the same place as him, but sadly he didn't score high enough on the entrance exams and went to a different uni. Which left me here, where I currently reside.

Sadly I despise this field, as I see it nothing as a meaningless cope. I only study enough to pass exams, thus my grades are not great. I lack the motivation and believe I will never see anything beautiful in it, what for example my friend and other students "might" see.

Given my lack of enjoyment in these activities you might concur I'm depressed and need help, but weirdly enough this isn't the case. My baseline dopamine is mediocre and I don't feel sad. But I don't feel fulfilled. That is the core problem of my life currently, and I have no idea on how to overcome this.

Maybe I'm simplistic. Maybe I'm too narrowly focused on this biological framework. I'm not sure.

Have you guys found stuff that truly interests you? Does it really make life fulfilling? Or are we just intellectualizing our suffering, reframing it into yet a another hierarchy to conquer.

Tbh my interests either find me or I go and search for new things to try.