Discussion I find discussion about the Blackpill/dating market boring tbh

[Tabula Rasa]

It's not that the topic itself has already been discussed to death (which it certainly has), but also that such experiences are so alien to me--I was never even in the game to begin with, honestly--that to keep engaging in these kinds of discussions seems quite silly, frankly.

What really interests me are topics relating to improving quality of life, mental health, spirituality, Neeting, and the Whitepill.

 

[Naofumi]

Indeed heavily coping with reality was my baseline using anything in the digital hemisphere naturally it wasn't the best solution but the black pill never made it fully through. Those things are of higher concern in theory as well, not sure where it all went wrong. Could be just giga memers at this point or dark triad rapist maxxers.

 

[Tabula Rasa]

Indeed heavily coping with reality was my baseline using anything in the digital hemisphere naturally it wasn't the best solution but the black pill never made it fully through. Those things are of higher concern in theory as well, not sure where it all went wrong. Could be just giga memers at this point or dark triad rapist maxxers.

I think there's a kind of tunnel vision or hyperfocus among Blackpillers around this point when we should also be finding solutions or practices which help improve the quality of our day-to-day life.

 

[lunin7]

same, the topic gets old after awhile idk how they don't get tired of the same topics some blackpillers and mgtows

but then again it's all a lot of men have to live for nowadays, which is have children, many of which will never reproduce

 

[Enju]

has already been discussed to death

this is the biggest thing for me. You can only discuss it so much and reiterate it in different ways.

 

[Tabula Rasa]

same, the topic gets old after awhile idk how they don't get tired of the same topics some blackpillers and mgtows

but then again it's all a lot of men have to live for nowadays, which is have children, many of which will never reproduce

Sure reproduction is one of the primary goals in life but there are others as well. And an individual can do IVF if they really must.

 

[Enju]

same, the topic gets old after awhile idk how they don't get tired of the same topics some blackpillers and mgtows

I think most stay around these spaces because it's the only place to talk to like-minded people and other autists.

Sure reproduction is one of the primary goals in life but there are others as well. And an individual can do IVF if they really must.

It's still hard to get rid of the want to reproduce. At the end of the day it's our biological needs. It's not so much donating your sperm, rather feeling intimate. Of course dwelling on the idea of being a cel is not very productive. But that's what the whitepill is for.

 

[Sovereign]

It's not that the topic itself has already been discussed to death (which it certainly has), but that such experiences are so alien to me--I was never even in the game to begin with, honestly--that to keep engaging in these kinds of discussions seems quite silly, frankly.

What really interests me are topics relating to improving quality of life, mental health, spirituality, Neeting, and the Whitepill.

To the topic I think that at this point its important to codify the blackpill in some way, make it easy and available. Because what is often being communicated is a large chunk of life being affected because of your looks, height, weight, intelligence, social ability. If anything its that time to make clear what standards apply and don't and what is FACT from OPINION, that way men can navigate and see what is necessary to apply in their lives and what is not & that other portions are important patterns to look out for.

In regards to neeting, there should be made clear its definition and history and what causes someone to withdraw from society that way we have a clear definition of the idea of neeting and we know what we are communicating. That and we might find ways of helping men to neet more or slowly getting to a position where they can take more of their time back little by little so as to have the bare minimum and eventually have a secure financial situation and back up in case things go south.

 

[Sovereign]

Indeed heavily coping with reality was my baseline using anything in the digital hemisphere naturally it wasn't the best solution but the black pill never made it fully through. Those things are of higher concern in theory as well, not sure where it all went wrong. Could be just giga memers at this point or dark triad rapist maxxers.

Most black pilled ideas or individuals so-called ought to be understood, but that should be done with a competent associate of those matters, the mass majority are but children and will not allow themselves to go above repetitive threads and attitudes. The blackpill provides a kind of model so to speak of how life is within social society (specifically human society) and must be taken with an open mind. At this point, we should consider we should be finding ways to help each other cope and root out the negative actors in these sphere's, because they are worse then the 'normies' they claim to despise.

 

[Sovereign]

I think there's a kind of tunnel vision or hyperfocus among Blackpillers around this point when we should also be finding solutions or practices which help improve the quality of our day-to-day life.

There is, hence why the solutions are non-existent, if you are taught all men are competitive and that you should not socialize and or we are a not meant to be around other men, then I would not be surprised that we find men who are not socialized in a manner that can at least make sense. But yes, there needs to be solutions to help others in day to day living, because that's going to be a major factor in others lives, whether or not they have the skills to cope and or get to the next stage of their lives.

 

[Tabula Rasa]

To the topic I think that at this point its important to codify the blackpill in some way, make it easy and available. Because what is often being communicated is a large chunk of life being affected because of your looks, height, weight, intelligence, social ability. If anything its that time to make clear what standards apply and don't and what is FACT from OPINION, that way men can navigate and see what is necessary to apply in their lives and what is not & that other portions are important patterns to look out for.

I mean, is there any real need to? Everyone in these spaces who have been here for a while already have a clear idea of what the Blackpill is all about. The Incel Wiki is also a source which formally discusses the topic very extensively.

In regards to neeting, there should be made clear its definition and history and what causes someone to withdraw from society that way we have a clear definition of the idea of neeting and we know what we are communicating. That and we might find ways of helping men to neet more or slowly getting to a position where they can take more of their time back little by little so as to have the bare minimum and eventually have a secure financial situation and back up in case things go south.

I've reposted some articles/studies surrounding this which may be useful for people:

Discussion - Chronic Social Defeat Stress

Invisible chains of social hierarchy can shackle the human spirit, leaving even the strongest among us grappling with a relentless foe known as chronic social defeat stress. This pervasive phenomenon has become increasingly prevalent in our modern society, affecting individuals across various...

elysianfields.se

Lifestyle - The Ecology of Withdrawal

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4876127/ The phenomena of NEET and Hikikomori (N/H) in Japan have attracted growing attention both by social scientists and the media. Uchida and Norasakkunkit (2015) present a novel individual difference measure meant to capture people's risk for...

elysianfields.se

More discussion about this would always be helpful, of course.

 

[Sovereign]

same, the topic gets old after awhile idk how they don't get tired of the same topics some blackpillers and mgtows

but then again it's all a lot of men have to live for nowadays, which is have children, many of which will never reproduce

Sadly, life is very vain and full of woes. The topic got old very quickly-what we cannot help is that for the first time we feel as though have answers and while sitting in the same room of depressing misfits gets annoying genuine relationships can be formed to help other men get another understanding of someone else's life. From what I heard those who made up MGTOW some where genuinely divorce raped and sought to at least inform others and while they could at least console themselves of their hardships.

 

[Sovereign]

Yeah ngl after awhile blackpill gets incredibly boring af.
Not to mention too but how people will over exaggerate it too for example the height pill,

*5’8 guy appears, is okay looking* (this isn’t dwarf tier short either)
Incel: OMG 5’8 muh fucking over for you you need to rope maxx broooo
*guy gets a decent looking girlfriend*
Incel: MUHHHHHHHHHH HE MUST OF JESTERMAXXED HE A BETABUXX CUCK MUH NO ONE DISPROVES HEIGHTPILL BLACKPILL ALWAYS REIGHSSS


and thing is there mostly like this. There the lowest iq retards ever

Its using excuses to justify those kinds of circumstances, that and perhaps crab-mentality, and yes those kinds of individuals tend to over exaggerate certain moments in their lives or under-represent that persons sorrows.

 

[Sovereign]

I mean, is there any real need to? Everyone in these spaces who have been here for a while already have a clear idea of what the Blackpill is all about. The Incel Wiki is also a source which formally discusses the topic very extensively.

I've reposted some articles/studies surrounding this which may be useful for people:

Discussion - Chronic Social Defeat Stress

Invisible chains of social hierarchy can shackle the human spirit, leaving even the strongest among us grappling with a relentless foe known as chronic social defeat stress. This pervasive phenomenon has become increasingly prevalent in our modern society, affecting individuals across various...

elysianfields.se

Lifestyle - The Ecology of Withdrawal

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4876127/ The phenomena of NEET and Hikikomori (N/H) in Japan have attracted growing attention both by social scientists and the media. Uchida and Norasakkunkit (2015) present a novel individual difference measure meant to capture people's risk for...

elysianfields.se

More discussion about this would always be helpful, of course.

Essentially, there ought to be a clear standard, just like how the Catholic church has the catechism, similar to how the Bible has the ten commandments, it should be made clear these ideas and yes there are resources that cover these topics; however some writers do a better job at explaining these concepts and life stories then others and while I do not mean that you or I should be the monks writings these manuscripts it should be at least clear that we have a standard of vocabulary so as to not lose the meaning and value of these words we use on a daily.

That and we should as you said discuss these matters more and provide reading material so as to better navigate life.

 

[Tabula Rasa]

Essentially, there ought to be a clear standard, just like how the Catholic church has the catechism, similar to how the Bible has the ten commandments, it should be made clear these ideas and yes there are resources that cover these topics; however some writers do a better job at explaining these concepts and life stories then others and while I do not mean that you or I should be the monks writings these manuscripts it should be at least clear that we have a standard of vocabulary so as to not lose the meaning and value of these words we use on a daily.

That and we should as you said discuss these matters more and provide reading material so as to better navigate life.
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If we ought to codify something, it should be the Whitepill, considering it is the main topic of this forum. The Incel Wiki already covers the Blackpill.

 

[Sovereign]

Perhaps once you've suffered much, you care very little for different topics, even then if you try to speak against such concepts otherwise you'll be labeled terrible names and or be hunted against to which I say, neets suffer no different from those who've never been in a relationship and if anything I am willing to bet that those who of weak constitution are a blood to a sharks nose aka abusers will abound where the weak congregate.

We should however talk about the blackpill come to our own conclusions, see how it applies to our lives, see what can be done and not and go from there, at least we will have talked about the topic & came to our own conclusions and shared our stories.

What we should do at at this point is create tactics and strategies for survival and clear communication of the white pill that and provide what we can for our fellow man. The first of those is is mental development being in the realm of critical thinking.

 

[Sovereign]

If we ought to codify something, it should be the Whitepill, considering it is the main topic of this forum. The Incel Wiki already covers the Blackpill.

If you like Dorito's in your beans than by all means do as you please. And by that I mean yes, by all means.

 

[DieVoGel]

It's not that the topic itself has already been discussed to death (which it certainly has), but also that such experiences are so alien to me--I was never even in the game to begin with, honestly--that to keep engaging in these kinds of discussions seems silly, quite frankly.

What really interests me are topics relating to improving quality of life, mental health, spirituality, Neeting, and the Whitepill.

True we all know it's about looks and NT connections by now but stuff about personal life and improvement is more interesting.

 

[Deleted member 230]

It's not that the topic itself has already been discussed to death (which it certainly has), but also that such experiences are so alien to me--I was never even in the game to begin with, honestly--that to keep engaging in these kinds of discussions seems quite silly, frankly.

What really interests me are topics relating to improving quality of life, mental health, spirituality, Neeting, and the Whitepill.

Growing up is realizing how goofy incel posts are.

 

[Myst]

Growing up is realizing how goofy incel posts are.

A lot are, a lot aren't.