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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sovereign" data-source="post: 30697" data-attributes="member: 10">Sadly, life is very vain and full of woes. The topic got old very quickly-what we cannot help is that for the first time we feel as though have answers and while sitting in the same room of depressing misfits gets annoying genuine relationships can be formed to help other men get another understanding of someone else's life.  From what I heard those who made up MGTOW some where genuinely divorce raped and sought to at least inform others and while they could at least console themselves of their hardships.</blockquote>