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<blockquote data-quote="fatcel_3000" data-source="post: 9406" data-attributes="member: 73"><p>Generally black people don't have enough money and don't make very good slaves for the Church of Scientology.</p><p></p><p>The Church of Scientology (CoS) is a cult run by a violent manlet but it's one of several denominations. Saying Scientology, the religion is a cult is like saying that some random bitch who smokes weed and has her christ necklace shake each time she gets clapped is part of the cult of christianity. There are christian cults where you have to live in a compound but that wouldn't make her a cultist.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Scientology is a philosophical system expressed in 58 Axioms.</p><p></p><p>Basically a modernized form of Tantric Buddhism. To practice scientology you don't have to "believe" anything. It's a series of mental and meditative exercises that serve to progressively increase your mental powers. A drill sheet on my desk I'm working on right now with the goal of enhancing my perception of sight in my memories.</p><p></p><p>Can you recall a sight which was:</p><p></p><p>1. Very Bright</p><p>2. Dark</p><p>3. Green</p><p>4. Vast</p><p>5. Moving</p><p>6. Flat</p><p>7. Deep</p><p>8. Colorful</p><p>9. Swift </p><p>10. Slow</p><p>11. Pleasant</p><p>12. Desirable</p><p>... and so on</p><p></p><p>I run through the list a few times. Then come back to it and try for earlier and earlier memories each time once my subconsious has been chewing on it for a bit. The goal here is to unlock half-forgotten childhood impressions that still have an effect on my thinking. Eventually past lifetimes. The more advanced you are the more you can remember.</p><p></p><p>This presupposes the cosmological model contained in tantric buddhism and hinduism. That is:</p><p></p><p>- reincarnation</p><p>- entities, some with seemingly godlike powers</p><p>- the cyclic creation of universes</p><p>- alternate planes of existence</p><p>- ascension to higher states of being through knowledge</p><p></p><p>You don't <em>have to </em>"believe" any of this any more than you have to believe in the pythagorean theorem or that the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell. Or any other school subjects to complete the work and pass the tests. Scientology is a series of progressively more advanced courses mapped on the Bridge to Total Freedom.</p><p></p><p>The reason you complete these courses is because you personally want to. Most people do them because they feel it improves their quality of life. To be able to access and process memories from your past lives, you would first have to be able to remember your childhood. A less gay version of trauma processing therapy. Many people quit at this point and live better than they used to. The ultimate goal, that the most advanced classes teach is to reach what buddhism calls "Enlightenment".</p><p></p><p>Your teacher is called an auditor. They run the same processes and ask the same questions you would ask yourself but it goes a bit faster because of how much expierence they have. Downside is it costs money. Any person providing a sevice full-time needs to get paid. Kind of like learning the guitar by yourself vs with a teacher guiding you. Personally, I'm doing a good amount of self-study, the exercises in a few books before I get my progress certified by an auditor.</p><p></p><p>The barrier to remembering events that happened before you incarnated on earth, so millions and millions of years ago is the course known as OT III (the Xenu thing) which is explained in the next question below.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Generally accurate.</p><p></p><p>In the Abrahamic religions, Xenu is known as Satan</p><p></p><p>Hubbard coined new words for his concepts to remove the baggage contained in a word like "soul" "trauma" or "Satan". Thetan, Engram, Xenu</p><p></p><p>The Fall of Man occurred when the first man, Adam, ate from the Tree of Knowledge. Thereupon after which every man was born with this "Original Sin"</p><p></p><p>In Scientology, Satan ("Xenu") dropped humans onto earth ("Teegeeack") . A very painful, traumatic incident.</p><p></p><p>People have certain "triggers" that have an inordinate effect on them. Let's say you insult someone, call them X. Obviously, no one likes being insulted. But if someone called them X before in a traumatic incident, their reaction would be amplified. </p><p></p><p>There's an old joke that's a variation of: if giving birth hurts so much, why do women do it so many times?</p><p>Both giving birth and giving birth are extremely painful experiences that your mind blocks out.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1972[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>The Volcano on the cover symbolizes both birth and the "original birth" of mankind. The submerged memories of which are triggered by this birth. </p><p></p><p>The key difference between Scientology and the mainstream churches is that you overcome this through knowledge instead of belief or devotion. Enlightenment. Gnosis.</p><p></p><p>Gnosticism and the mystery schools are the closest interpretations to scientology in the western religious tradition.</p><p>Scientology is the largest, best organized and most comprehensive of these esoteric or mystery religions. In these schools of religion you had to be initiated and work to get access to the secret scriptures. Ofc, all of them are public now, but you're not gonna get much out of the materials unless you put the work in. It's like thinking you can make a hydrogen bomb because the nuclear physics are all online. </p><p></p><p>Jewish mysticism which I don't know much about but personally think is kind of gay and cringe works on the belief that the Book of Genesis is a magical codex with a secret meaning. You go word by word, look at number patterns, hidden meanings. You see "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth" and you don't say "this is true" or "this is false". You think of it as a sort of math equation you have to analyze, comprehend and solve.</p><p></p><p>I think the OT III materials are generally true, but I couldn't tell you if Satan would know what you're talking about if you addressed him by "Xemu". Little details are not relevant for the purposes of spiritual advancement</p><p></p><p>The important part is studying the material until you pass the roadblock of being unable to recall past lives (it doesn't matter if you believe in these, just that you remember them) that occured before arrival on the earth. </p><p>The later traumatic incident, Birth is ran until it no longer blocks you and you are able to preceive your historical past lives. </p><p></p><p>Remember, birth is more painful than it already is because it reminds you of incident II. Imagine it as a chain you have to work down.</p><p></p><p>Incident II - (being born) - (being born) - (being born) - (being born) (giving birth x3) - Being Born in your current life - traumatic childhood memories that remind you of being born - memories that remind you of those traumatic memories - random memories that remind you of the memories of memories (of memories, of memories... and so on) </p><p></p><p>On an even more advanced level you process your arrival into this universe and can remember events before you got trapped in a retarded meat-body. </p><p></p><p></p><p>__________________</p><p></p><p>The main inaccuracy in the South Park episode is about the reincarnation of L. Ron Hubbard. He most likely reincarned in Russia as he announced in his novel, Battlefield Earth. </p><p></p><p>The CoS (Church of Scientology) is not looking for his reincarnation. Their stance is that they are still in telepathic contact with him after he got rid of his body because it became an impediment to his work. Again, as a Fundementalist Scientologist, I am on the other side of the Great Schism of 1982 and don't believe whatever cringe and bullshit they say.</p><p></p><p>There are a lot of people who claim to be the reincarnation of L. Ron Hubbard. A christian schizo often believes they're the reincarnation of Jesus. For scientology that turns into L. Ron Hubbard. You can find a lot of their schizo writings online but no one takes them very seriously</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fatcel_3000, post: 9406, member: 73"] Generally black people don't have enough money and don't make very good slaves for the Church of Scientology. The Church of Scientology (CoS) is a cult run by a violent manlet but it's one of several denominations. Saying Scientology, the religion is a cult is like saying that some random bitch who smokes weed and has her christ necklace shake each time she gets clapped is part of the cult of christianity. There are christian cults where you have to live in a compound but that wouldn't make her a cultist. Scientology is a philosophical system expressed in 58 Axioms. Basically a modernized form of Tantric Buddhism. To practice scientology you don't have to "believe" anything. It's a series of mental and meditative exercises that serve to progressively increase your mental powers. A drill sheet on my desk I'm working on right now with the goal of enhancing my perception of sight in my memories. Can you recall a sight which was: 1. Very Bright 2. Dark 3. Green 4. Vast 5. Moving 6. Flat 7. Deep 8. Colorful 9. Swift 10. Slow 11. Pleasant 12. Desirable ... and so on I run through the list a few times. Then come back to it and try for earlier and earlier memories each time once my subconsious has been chewing on it for a bit. The goal here is to unlock half-forgotten childhood impressions that still have an effect on my thinking. Eventually past lifetimes. The more advanced you are the more you can remember. This presupposes the cosmological model contained in tantric buddhism and hinduism. That is: - reincarnation - entities, some with seemingly godlike powers - the cyclic creation of universes - alternate planes of existence - ascension to higher states of being through knowledge You don't [I]have to [/I]"believe" any of this any more than you have to believe in the pythagorean theorem or that the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell. Or any other school subjects to complete the work and pass the tests. Scientology is a series of progressively more advanced courses mapped on the Bridge to Total Freedom. The reason you complete these courses is because you personally want to. Most people do them because they feel it improves their quality of life. To be able to access and process memories from your past lives, you would first have to be able to remember your childhood. A less gay version of trauma processing therapy. Many people quit at this point and live better than they used to. The ultimate goal, that the most advanced classes teach is to reach what buddhism calls "Enlightenment". Your teacher is called an auditor. They run the same processes and ask the same questions you would ask yourself but it goes a bit faster because of how much expierence they have. Downside is it costs money. Any person providing a sevice full-time needs to get paid. Kind of like learning the guitar by yourself vs with a teacher guiding you. Personally, I'm doing a good amount of self-study, the exercises in a few books before I get my progress certified by an auditor. The barrier to remembering events that happened before you incarnated on earth, so millions and millions of years ago is the course known as OT III (the Xenu thing) which is explained in the next question below. Generally accurate. In the Abrahamic religions, Xenu is known as Satan Hubbard coined new words for his concepts to remove the baggage contained in a word like "soul" "trauma" or "Satan". Thetan, Engram, Xenu The Fall of Man occurred when the first man, Adam, ate from the Tree of Knowledge. Thereupon after which every man was born with this "Original Sin" In Scientology, Satan ("Xenu") dropped humans onto earth ("Teegeeack") . A very painful, traumatic incident. People have certain "triggers" that have an inordinate effect on them. Let's say you insult someone, call them X. Obviously, no one likes being insulted. But if someone called them X before in a traumatic incident, their reaction would be amplified. There's an old joke that's a variation of: if giving birth hurts so much, why do women do it so many times? Both giving birth and giving birth are extremely painful experiences that your mind blocks out. [ATTACH type="full" width="198px"]1972[/ATTACH] The Volcano on the cover symbolizes both birth and the "original birth" of mankind. The submerged memories of which are triggered by this birth. The key difference between Scientology and the mainstream churches is that you overcome this through knowledge instead of belief or devotion. Enlightenment. Gnosis. Gnosticism and the mystery schools are the closest interpretations to scientology in the western religious tradition. Scientology is the largest, best organized and most comprehensive of these esoteric or mystery religions. In these schools of religion you had to be initiated and work to get access to the secret scriptures. Ofc, all of them are public now, but you're not gonna get much out of the materials unless you put the work in. It's like thinking you can make a hydrogen bomb because the nuclear physics are all online. Jewish mysticism which I don't know much about but personally think is kind of gay and cringe works on the belief that the Book of Genesis is a magical codex with a secret meaning. You go word by word, look at number patterns, hidden meanings. You see "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth" and you don't say "this is true" or "this is false". You think of it as a sort of math equation you have to analyze, comprehend and solve. I think the OT III materials are generally true, but I couldn't tell you if Satan would know what you're talking about if you addressed him by "Xemu". Little details are not relevant for the purposes of spiritual advancement The important part is studying the material until you pass the roadblock of being unable to recall past lives (it doesn't matter if you believe in these, just that you remember them) that occured before arrival on the earth. The later traumatic incident, Birth is ran until it no longer blocks you and you are able to preceive your historical past lives. Remember, birth is more painful than it already is because it reminds you of incident II. Imagine it as a chain you have to work down. Incident II - (being born) - (being born) - (being born) - (being born) (giving birth x3) - Being Born in your current life - traumatic childhood memories that remind you of being born - memories that remind you of those traumatic memories - random memories that remind you of the memories of memories (of memories, of memories... and so on) On an even more advanced level you process your arrival into this universe and can remember events before you got trapped in a retarded meat-body. __________________ The main inaccuracy in the South Park episode is about the reincarnation of L. Ron Hubbard. He most likely reincarned in Russia as he announced in his novel, Battlefield Earth. The CoS (Church of Scientology) is not looking for his reincarnation. Their stance is that they are still in telepathic contact with him after he got rid of his body because it became an impediment to his work. Again, as a Fundementalist Scientologist, I am on the other side of the Great Schism of 1982 and don't believe whatever cringe and bullshit they say. There are a lot of people who claim to be the reincarnation of L. Ron Hubbard. A christian schizo often believes they're the reincarnation of Jesus. For scientology that turns into L. Ron Hubbard. You can find a lot of their schizo writings online but no one takes them very seriously [/QUOTE]
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