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<blockquote data-quote="0 0" data-source="post: 9890" data-attributes="member: 150">Scientology doesn&#039;t seem to have any of its own effectiveness or legitimacy that other traditions or teachers have not already given in the past, so then why must the wheel be reinvented? These things aren&#039;t exclusive to Scientology; there are more effective ways. Conditioning is physical; it is how your nervous system has structured itself. Your intuition does not need to be &quot;developed&quot;; it needs to be &quot;uncovered.&quot; Your claim about Dianetics inspiring modern trauma therapy is false as well; it originated from early behavioralists like John B. Watson, Mary Cover Jones, and Joseph Wolpe way before Dianetics was published.Enlightenment does not require conceptual knowledge nor has anything to do with thoughts; it is freedom from concepts entirely. It is an awakening. All these texts came from those who attempted to express that and are the expression of that. Ironically, if NEETs actually did nothing and left the modern world, they may become enlightened themselves lolol.Again, intuition does not need to be cultivated, just as you cannot cultivate your instincts or intelligence. After writing all of this, as I have read and re-read what you&#039;ve said, it seems to me that you&#039;ve eventually come across this system because it offers a systematic way to increase your mental abilities, ultimately leading to enlightenment.From what I&#039;ve observed, you are a knowledgeable person, so why call yourself a Scientologist? Is it because you are a Westerner? I don&#039;t know of the specifics of these exercises, but like Mahayana Buddhism famously states, &quot;There are 84,000 gates to the Dharma.&quot; So, if this works for you and you are legitimately releasing your Kleshas, keep practicing. Ultimately, all these thoughts are labels we apply to reality; they are not reality itself, which is unfathomable. You don&#039;t know what anything really is or how things are; once you directly experience the nothingness that all phenomena arise from, everything is known to you, and everything is clear. There is just this, and that&#039;s it. Bondage and Enlightenment is a delusion.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="0 0, post: 9890, member: 150"] Scientology doesn't seem to have any of its own effectiveness or legitimacy that other traditions or teachers have not already given in the past, so then why must the wheel be reinvented? These things aren't exclusive to Scientology; there are more effective ways. Conditioning is physical; it is how your nervous system has structured itself. Your intuition does not need to be "developed"; it needs to be "uncovered." Your claim about Dianetics inspiring modern trauma therapy is false as well; it originated from early behavioralists like John B. Watson, Mary Cover Jones, and Joseph Wolpe way before Dianetics was published. Enlightenment does not require conceptual knowledge nor has anything to do with thoughts; it is freedom from concepts entirely. It is an [I]awakening[/I]. All these texts came from those who attempted to express that and are the expression of that. Ironically, if NEETs actually did nothing and left the modern world, they may become enlightened themselves lolol. Again, intuition does not need to be cultivated, just as you cannot cultivate your instincts or intelligence. After writing all of this, as I have read and re-read what you've said, it seems to me that you've eventually come across this system because it offers a systematic way to increase your [I]mental abilities, [/I]ultimately[I] leading[/I] to enlightenment. From what I've observed, you are a knowledgeable person, so why call yourself a Scientologist? Is it because you are a Westerner? I don't know of the specifics of these exercises, but like Mahayana Buddhism famously states, "There are 84,000 gates to the Dharma." So, if this works for you and you are legitimately releasing your Kleshas, keep practicing. Ultimately, all these thoughts are labels we apply to reality; they are not reality itself, which is unfathomable. You don't know what anything really is or how things are; once you directly [I]experience[/I] the nothingness that all phenomena arise from, everything is known to you, and everything is clear. There is just this, and that's it. Bondage and Enlightenment is a delusion. [/QUOTE]

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