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<blockquote data-quote="6ft4" data-source="post: 69965" data-attributes="member: 357">A lot of people will hold the view that as you get into rarer levels of looks rarity, your opportunities and success with women begin to increase exponentially I feel like the base level of looks you start with (how you look at 18 assuming your aren&#039;t a fat piece of shit) tells more about how much looks related dating success you&#039;ll receive in your life than anything else, regardless of your potential looks ceiling At 18 I was 68-72kg with a bloated babyface and I managed to get 4 LTB-MTB slays During my slaying peak from 22-24, I weighed 95kg and my face had become a lot more masculine and appealing but I was still stuck slaying MTBs which is underperforming for a 6&#039;4 roided HTN After my slaying peak I came off roids and stopped drinking and lost the motivation to pursue while I was planning jaw surgery I had a clear ascension with jaw surgery which made me look back on old pics with an underbite and made me question how I was able to view that as a normal baseline at the time given how much facial improvement and harmony was adding by improving my jaw relationship.While I mog my 18 year old self to an extreme degree and get far more looks on the street from more attractive foids today than I ever did pre surgery, when I approach a foid and have to graft them it feels like nothing has actually changed compared to how things were at 18 or from 22-24It&#039;s always been a case that a LTB-MTB occasionally agrees to a hookup with minimal effort, but in terms of getting anything over the line with a bog standard HTB (Something that should be expected as a 6&#039;4 mascsthetic archetype guy absent of facial flaws) it feels like all of the ascension counted for absolutely nothing If anything, ascending physically just makes you less capable of tolerating foid&#039;s bullshit resistance and makes you think that average and below average men who have foids give them the time of day are actually getting a better deal / ROI on their graft investment than you are One thing remained consistent for me in terms of slaying performance and that is the use of roids + alcoholWhen I utilized roids and alcohol often in my worst looks state I slayedWhen I utilized roids and alcohol often in my best looks state I slayedWhen I didn&#039;t utilize roids and alcohol in my worst looks state I didn&#039;t slayWhen I didn&#039;t utilize roids and alcohol in my best looks state I didn&#039;t slayAscending physically is solely a vanity pursuit (still valid) and it&#039;s best to look at it as nothing more than that</blockquote>

[QUOTE="6ft4, post: 69965, member: 357"] A lot of people will hold the view that as you get into rarer levels of looks rarity, your opportunities and success with women begin to increase exponentially I feel like the base level of looks you start with (how you look at 18 assuming your aren't a fat piece of shit) tells more about how much looks related dating success you'll receive in your life than anything else, regardless of your potential looks ceiling At 18 I was 68-72kg with a bloated babyface and I managed to get 4 LTB-MTB slays During my slaying peak from 22-24, I weighed 95kg and my face had become a lot more masculine and appealing but I was still stuck slaying MTBs which is underperforming for a 6'4 roided HTN After my slaying peak I came off roids and stopped drinking and lost the motivation to pursue while I was planning jaw surgery I had a clear ascension with jaw surgery which made me look back on old pics with an underbite and made me question how I was able to view that as a normal baseline at the time given how much facial improvement and harmony was adding by improving my jaw relationship. While I mog my 18 year old self to an extreme degree and get far more looks on the street from more attractive foids today than I ever did pre surgery, when I approach a foid and have to graft them it feels like nothing has actually changed compared to how things were at 18 or from 22-24 It's always been a case that a LTB-MTB occasionally agrees to a hookup with minimal effort, but in terms of getting anything over the line with a bog standard HTB (Something that should be expected as a 6'4 mascsthetic archetype guy absent of facial flaws) it feels like all of the ascension counted for absolutely nothing If anything, ascending physically just makes you less capable of tolerating foid's bullshit resistance and makes you think that average and below average men who have foids give them the time of day are actually getting a better deal / ROI on their graft investment than you are One thing remained consistent for me in terms of slaying performance and that is the use of roids + alcohol When I utilized roids and alcohol often in my worst looks state I slayed When I utilized roids and alcohol often in my best looks state I slayed When I didn't utilize roids and alcohol in my worst looks state I didn't slay When I didn't utilize roids and alcohol in my best looks state I didn't slay Ascending physically is solely a vanity pursuit (still valid) and it's best to look at it as nothing more than that [/QUOTE]

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