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<blockquote data-quote="Suigin Trismegistus" data-source="post: 79752" data-attributes="member: 487">This smells strongly of feminist angst wafting from the longhouse, with all its hatred of hierarchy.It matters not the starting point of a man, of whether he is an ugly prole or of noble blood, but of what rank, role and indeed archetype he fulfills in his duty to the group. Is he oriented upward to a higher ideal? Yes, perhaps in highschool and modern society in general, such groups of men are a mockery of the past potentials achieved by patriarchal organization, but the fact that it still occurs naturally, without force, underlies the true instinct of man.To foids, such hierarchies are seen as something dangerous, something that must be dismantled and prevented from forming. And here you are, preaching their foul magic as gospel.I&#039;m afraid the concerns of &quot;the last men&quot; (as Nietzsche has put it) are so far removed from most of history, that they would likely run you through. Maybe just leave you stranded, if you are lucky.I don&#039;t mean to be hostile, but I believe you lack perspective.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Suigin Trismegistus, post: 79752, member: 487"] This smells strongly of feminist angst wafting from the longhouse, with all its hatred of hierarchy. It matters not the starting point of a man, of whether he is an ugly prole or of noble blood, but of what rank, role and indeed archetype he fulfills in his duty to the group. Is he oriented upward to a higher ideal? Yes, perhaps in highschool and modern society in general, such groups of men are a mockery of the past potentials achieved by patriarchal organization, but the fact that it still occurs naturally, without force, underlies the true instinct of man. To foids, such hierarchies are seen as something dangerous, something that must be dismantled and prevented from forming. And here you are, preaching their foul magic as gospel. I'm afraid the concerns of "the last men" (as Nietzsche has put it) are so far removed from most of history, that they would likely run you through. Maybe just leave you stranded, if you are lucky. I don't mean to be hostile, but I believe you lack perspective. [/QUOTE]

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