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<blockquote data-quote="Deleted member 258" data-source="post: 34210">I am sure at least some of you have came across a recent bit of news in which three female streamers were stalked and threatened by a young male following them rejecting his romantic proposition during a public stream. (My internet usage has, at this point, far exceeded what would be considered &quot;healthy&quot;, so despite my not being as well-versed with streamers, this story was brought to my attention.)I am not going to link to anything regarding the situation, since it&#039;s pretty textbook, and, more importantly, it&#039;s just one example of a widespread problem.The entire idea, of which I am sure you&#039;re aware, and perhaps unfortunately have even exemplified yourself, of a man reacting with anger to romantic rejection is a fairly sensitive but well-known one.Now obviously, it need not be mentioned that the true victims in these situations happen to be the women. But less is said about, and perhaps one is even discouraged in discussing, the required element of the victimhood of the men in these scenarios.Obviously, in these specific interactions, it&#039;s not as if the women victimize the men, but it is the case that these men, almost universally, were victimized at some point prior.I think it stands to reason that anyone who responds to any form of rejection with an immensely emotional response has already had a profound, perhaps even foundational, experience with rejection, whether it be at the hands of a parent, teacher, sibling, friend, etc. More specifically, I think rejection, whether explicit or implicit, that occurs during the stages of childhood are crucial in this context and are probably overrepresented.Anyway, all of this is to say that one isn&#039;t allowed to bring about these ideas in thinking about a situation like this. Obviously, the primary issue is the victimization of the women. However, if one is to truly even think about solving these problems, the root cause must be considered.Time and time again, with each passing example of this phenomenon, the men that are involved are dehumanized. They are labelled as &quot;creeps&quot;, perhaps &quot;predators&quot;, and anything along similar lines.Mind you, I am not here to argue that these descriptions aren&#039;t appropriate, but I am of the opinion that they are irrational.One must consider how these men are being cultivated in society. They don&#039;t just materialize out of thin air; they aren&#039;t burdened with these tendencies from birth. Typically, some level of trauma is at play, but one is unpermitted from mentioning--hell, even thinking about--any of this.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Deleted member 258, post: 34210"] I am sure at least some of you have came across a recent bit of news in which three female streamers were stalked and threatened by a young male following them rejecting his romantic proposition during a public stream. (My internet usage has, at this point, far exceeded what would be considered "healthy", so despite my not being as well-versed with streamers, this story was brought to my attention.) I am not going to link to anything regarding the situation, since it's pretty textbook, and, more importantly, it's just one example of a widespread problem. The entire idea, of which I am sure you're aware, and perhaps unfortunately have even exemplified yourself, of a man reacting with anger to romantic rejection is a fairly sensitive but well-known one. Now obviously, it need not be mentioned that the true victims in these situations happen to be the women. But less is said about, and perhaps one is even discouraged in discussing, the required element of the victimhood of the [I]men[/I] in these scenarios. Obviously, in these specific interactions, it's not as if the women victimize the men, but it is the case that these men, almost universally, were victimized [I]at some point [/I]prior. I think it stands to reason that anyone who responds to any form of rejection with an immensely emotional response has already had a profound, perhaps even foundational, experience with rejection, whether it be at the hands of a parent, teacher, sibling, friend, etc. More specifically, I think rejection, whether explicit or implicit, that occurs during the stages of childhood are crucial in this context and are probably overrepresented. Anyway, all of this is to say that one isn't allowed to bring about these ideas in thinking about a situation like this. Obviously, the primary issue is the victimization of the women. However, if one is to truly even think about solving these problems, the root cause must be considered. Time and time again, with each passing example of this phenomenon, the men that are involved are dehumanized. They are labelled as "creeps", perhaps "predators", and anything along similar lines. Mind you, I am not here to argue that these descriptions aren't appropriate, but I am of the opinion that they are irrational. One must consider how these men are being cultivated in society. They don't just materialize out of thin air; they aren't burdened with these tendencies from birth. Typically, some level of trauma is at play, but one is unpermitted from mentioning--hell, even thinking about--any of this. [/QUOTE]

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