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<blockquote data-quote="Schwarzwald" data-source="post: 68532" data-attributes="member: 544">Not sure how serious you are seeing as parts of what you wrote made me chuckle and had an /x/ vibe but that&#039;s right up my alley. This is beyond one of my favorite topics because of what it touches on from ufo, operation paper clip, project Stargate, the 4th riegh (yet to happen), project artichoke, and on and on I could talk about this for days. When you look at what Whitney Webb (she&#039;s a really good writer/investigators when it comes to real government corruption) has actually mapped out, it’s clear that MKUltra didn’t end, it just went corporate. The real connection lies with the guys like Sidney Gottlieb. He was obsessed with depatterning the human mind(had a real Frankfort school of understanding or thinking they understand human mind and nature), essentially trying to turn a brain into a blank slate using trauma and drugs. While he was doing that in the 50s and 60s, the government was simultaneously bringing in Nazi scientists through Project Paperclip who had spent their careers studying how to control and &quot;purify&quot; populations.The Intelligence Services (specifically the CIA and Israeli Mossad) and Organized Crime (the &quot;National Crime Syndicate&quot;, was a loose and powerful group of American, wop and jew mobs that emerged in the late 1920s to early 1930s, ) those two groups merged to create a permanent &quot;National Security State.&quot;. They realized that drugging individual people was too messy, so they shifted to controlling the entire environment. This is where the tech comes in. John Poindexter, one of the guys behind the Iran-Contra(iran-Contra is another one of those messes I can talk about forever) mess, later headed a project called &quot;Total Information Awareness&quot;(the pre Facebook program) that wanted to track every single digital thing an American did. When the public got pissed and the project was &quot;shut down,&quot; that same technology was basically handed off to Peter Thiel and the founders of Palantir. It’s not a coincidence that Facebook’s launch date is the exact day the Pentagon’s &quot;LifeLog&quot; surveillance project was canned.The government just figured out that instead of kidnapping people and forcing them into experiments, they could just give us a shiny app and we’d volunteer all the data they ever wanted... I&#039;m kinda getting off track honesty but. But what I&#039;m getting at is it never ended it&#039;s just more advanced then ever. Kids being sold to parents or stolen for &quot;spy training.&quot;? This reminds me of the core of the Franklin scandal (during the 80&#039;s) was the allegation that children from Boys Town and foster care were being trafficked to high-level &quot;parties&quot; in D.C. and Omaha. And both sides of the government got caught up in it dems and Republicans.The Paul bonacci deposition, It’s a grainy, handheld video from the early 90s where Bonacci, a survivor of the Franklin Scandal, describes being taken to military bases and being subjected to the exact kind of &quot;sleeper&quot; and &quot;trauma-based&quot; training you mentioned. In the video, his lawyer often has to help him navigate between different &quot;personalities&quot; that were supposedly created through that trauma.I&#039;m probably just a weirdo at this point going all over the place in a caffeine driven skitzo rant, I enjoyed your write up. It made me laugh and it made me remember a ton of nasty shit the government likes to do.Tl:drShits nuts out here. The government loves doing weird shit and mk ultra never stopped they just got us to make ultra ourselves and pay them taxes to keep doing it. Don&#039;t forget to drink your ovaltine!![ATTACH=full]13084[/ATTACH]</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Schwarzwald, post: 68532, member: 544"] Not sure how serious you are seeing as parts of what you wrote made me chuckle and had an /x/ vibe but that's right up my alley. This is beyond one of my favorite topics because of what it touches on from ufo, operation paper clip, project Stargate, the 4th riegh (yet to happen), project artichoke, and on and on I could talk about this for days. When you look at what Whitney Webb (she's a really good writer/investigators when it comes to real government corruption) has actually mapped out, it’s clear that MKUltra didn’t end, it just went corporate. The real connection lies with the guys like Sidney Gottlieb. He was obsessed with depatterning the human mind(had a real Frankfort school of understanding or thinking they understand human mind and nature), essentially trying to turn a brain into a blank slate using trauma and drugs. While he was doing that in the 50s and 60s, the government was simultaneously bringing in Nazi scientists through Project Paperclip who had spent their careers studying how to control and "purify" populations. The Intelligence Services (specifically the CIA and Israeli Mossad) and Organized Crime (the "National Crime Syndicate", was a loose and powerful group of American, wop and jew mobs that emerged in the late 1920s to early 1930s, ) those two groups merged to create a permanent "National Security State.". They realized that drugging individual people was too messy, so they shifted to controlling the entire environment. This is where the tech comes in. John Poindexter, one of the guys behind the Iran-Contra(iran-Contra is another one of those messes I can talk about forever) mess, later headed a project called "Total Information Awareness"(the pre Facebook program) that wanted to track every single digital thing an American did. When the public got pissed and the project was "shut down," that same technology was basically handed off to Peter Thiel and the founders of Palantir. It’s not a coincidence that Facebook’s launch date is the exact day the Pentagon’s "LifeLog" surveillance project was canned.The government just figured out that instead of kidnapping people and forcing them into experiments, they could just give us a shiny app and we’d volunteer all the data they ever wanted... I'm kinda getting off track honesty but. But what I'm getting at is it never ended it's just more advanced then ever. Kids being sold to parents or stolen for "spy training."? This reminds me of the core of the Franklin scandal (during the 80's) was the allegation that children from Boys Town and foster care were being trafficked to high-level "parties" in D.C. and Omaha. And both sides of the government got caught up in it dems and Republicans. The Paul bonacci deposition, It’s a grainy, handheld video from the early 90s where Bonacci, a survivor of the Franklin Scandal, describes being taken to military bases and being subjected to the exact kind of "sleeper" and "trauma-based" training you mentioned. In the video, his lawyer often has to help him navigate between different "personalities" that were supposedly created through that trauma. I'm probably just a weirdo at this point going all over the place in a caffeine driven skitzo rant, I enjoyed your write up. It made me laugh and it made me remember a ton of nasty shit the government likes to do. Tl:dr Shits nuts out here. The government loves doing weird shit and mk ultra never stopped they just got us to make ultra ourselves and pay them taxes to keep doing it. Don't forget to drink your ovaltine!! [ATTACH type="full"]13084[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]

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