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<blockquote data-quote="Whitespace" data-source="post: 44052" data-attributes="member: 386">I&#039;m Arab and Muslim and have lived in Arabia for my entire life. I think both sides are deluded to Hell and back, to be honest. The Islamist fantasy of a Europe Islamized by sheer mass is retarded by the caliber of human beings that actually move to Europe. A very large amount are criminals who flee to escape consequence (I wonder why liberals have consistently rallied against criminal deportations...)Furthermore, for the ones who move for other reasons (economic opportunity or asylum), they often never truly &quot;assimilate&quot; but rarely retain many of their own cultural practices. Diaspora Arabs/Muslims very often find themselves in a sorry bind between the issues of our own culture and those of the West. It&#039;s an identity crisis created by this cosmopolitan monoculture. It affects us back home, too. On one hand, I feel as if corruption and nepotism are rampant enough here to make people want to ragequit but on another one of the worst things about us is that the actually smart ones are smart enough to leave (and take their skill and knowledge with them). Putting aside my personal philosophy and opinions as a Muslim, dude killed 51 people (that being ~0.0000025% of the entire Muslim population). I may agree with you had he been anything other than some ressentiment-rabid narcissist. If you&#039;d like to point to a figure who actually made a dent in the Muslim population, try Radovan Karadzic or Xi Jinping. It&#039;s far from mythological or glamorous. People do, however, need a narrative. Logic moves a few to action, but emotion moves millions or billions. Be it the tit-for-tat pogroms during the Lebanese Civil War or ISIS&#039;s various atrocities, be it Pol Pot or Karadzic or whoever, targets are rarely picked at random. Blame is, however, funneled onto them because it is substantially easier to say one thing&#039;s the problem than to receive the old and disappointing response: &quot;It&#039;s complicated&quot;. That&#039;s as simple as the Islamists who jumped at joy back during the Summer of Love in 2015 or our old Aussie friend Brent or Pol Pot or whoever. The truth is rarely intuitive, even rarer-ly simple.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Whitespace, post: 44052, member: 386"] I'm Arab and Muslim and have lived in Arabia for my entire life. I think both sides are deluded to Hell and back, to be honest. The Islamist fantasy of a Europe Islamized by sheer mass is retarded by the caliber of human beings that actually move to Europe. A very large amount are criminals who flee to escape consequence (I wonder why liberals have consistently rallied against criminal deportations...) Furthermore, for the ones who move for other reasons (economic opportunity or asylum), they often never truly "assimilate" but rarely retain many of their own cultural practices. Diaspora Arabs/Muslims very often find themselves in a sorry bind between the issues of our own culture and those of the West. It's an identity crisis created by this cosmopolitan monoculture. It affects us back home, too. On one hand, I feel as if corruption and nepotism are rampant enough here to make people want to ragequit but on another one of the worst things about us is that the actually smart ones are smart enough to leave (and take their skill and knowledge with them). Putting aside my personal philosophy and opinions as a Muslim, dude killed 51 people (that being ~0.0000025% of the entire Muslim population). I may agree with you had he been anything other than some ressentiment-rabid narcissist. If you'd like to point to a figure who actually made a dent in the Muslim population, try Radovan Karadzic or Xi Jinping. It's far from mythological or glamorous. People do, however, need a narrative. Logic moves a few to action, but emotion moves millions or billions. Be it the tit-for-tat pogroms during the Lebanese Civil War or ISIS's various atrocities, be it Pol Pot or Karadzic or whoever, targets are rarely picked at random. Blame is, however, funneled onto them because it is substantially easier to say one thing's the problem than to receive the old and disappointing response: "It's complicated". That's as simple as the Islamists who jumped at joy back during the Summer of Love in 2015 or our old Aussie friend Brent or Pol Pot or whoever. The truth is rarely intuitive, even rarer-ly simple. [/QUOTE]

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