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<blockquote data-quote="porco-dddio" data-source="post: 81566" data-attributes="member: 656">[MEDIA=youtube]iWZZ4qrRJ94[/MEDIA]No idea why they are called &quot;maxers&quot; when in most cases they &quot;min&quot; their looks becoming ugly caricatures of a human filled with plastic implants while their brain is a toilet where everyone shit into ideas pertaining to &quot;validation&quot; and &quot;ascension&quot;.In my incel experience we always had a conflict agains them, not because they do surgery which is absolutely irrelevant. Its mostly because they have a violent way to enforce a worldview where men have to depend on imaginary woman approval.The woman approval is also detached from reality, because they keep obsessing over looks, and woman approval is not ONLY given when you look good, if you chase woman approval you can obtain in all sorts of ways, so if you are after ideas of &quot;validation&quot; and &quot;ascension&quot; you can easily obtain them without any looks transformation being done.One in particular I remember was a young incel called bluephantom in our local incel community. He was a young man during 2013 where I met him on a digital forum, he was 21 and already obsessed over plastic surgery. I knew him better with time, and I came to understand the situation. He had a crippling social anxiety that was so strong to the point he fainted in public. This guy was rich, and he done surgery, he boosted his face, and looked better than sean opry. He also payed an immoral surgeon to plug some materials uneder his feet, which rotted. Obviously looksminning didnt do shit.And I didnt disrespect this guy, I was imagining him in my head as some sort of romantic hero willing to do anything to pursue his aspiration. And he wanted &quot;to be normal&quot; and I always felt sorry for him, and the cruel life inflicted on him made me think people like him are hopeless. Imagine accepting all that punishment on your body, only bcause you have this mythology in your head. None of us could help him, he was determined to destroy his own body, he ended up insane like all of the rest.Its a shit situation, we will all be forced to talk bout society issues, and is fault of no-one really.On a personal note, I can only offer some criticism of ideas of &quot;ascension&quot; and &quot;validation&quot;, ideas that taken alone dont deserve criticism, but is the way they are implemented by the looksfagging community what pissess me off. Its not that I criticize you if you have personal aspirations, its when these things are assumed to be &quot;scientific&quot; or &quot;reality of life&quot; that I start having some issues.Believe what you want really, if you want to think youre worth something only if women like you, go ahead. But dont pretend this is true. Do not come and tell me this is objective reality.Also a word of advice. Be careful, do not romanticize them, and also do not allow them to portray themselves as &quot;transcendent humans&quot; like they often do. They will try to portray themselves as &quot;people who overcome adversity&quot;, and you will read in their essays redpill phrases and ideas taken and copied from redpill manuals. Dont let them do it, deny the narrative completely. Doing this shit is not &quot;being a hero&quot; is kinda the opposite. You be the victim, you are victimizing yourself and accepting reframing of reality by life coaches. If there has to be help for them, one has to be prepared to deny the sense of heroism they use, and disregard the tale they invent bout &quot;overcoming adversities&quot; this is all a lie. Their entire worldview is a lie. All they say is a lie.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="porco-dddio, post: 81566, member: 656"] [MEDIA=youtube]iWZZ4qrRJ94[/MEDIA] No idea why they are called "maxers" when in most cases they "min" their looks becoming ugly caricatures of a human filled with plastic implants while their brain is a toilet where everyone shit into ideas pertaining to "validation" and "ascension". In my incel experience we always had a conflict agains them, not because they do surgery which is absolutely irrelevant. Its mostly because they have a violent way to enforce a worldview where men have to depend on imaginary woman approval. The woman approval is also detached from reality, because they keep obsessing over looks, and woman approval is not ONLY given when you look good, if you chase woman approval you can obtain in all sorts of ways, so if you are after ideas of "validation" and "ascension" you can easily obtain them without any looks transformation being done. One in particular I remember was a young incel called bluephantom in our local incel community. He was a young man during 2013 where I met him on a digital forum, he was 21 and already obsessed over plastic surgery. I knew him better with time, and I came to understand the situation. He had a crippling social anxiety that was so strong to the point he fainted in public. This guy was rich, and he done surgery, he boosted his face, and looked better than sean opry. He also payed an immoral surgeon to plug some materials uneder his feet, which rotted. Obviously looksminning didnt do shit. And I didnt disrespect this guy, I was imagining him in my head as some sort of romantic hero willing to do anything to pursue his aspiration. And he wanted "to be normal" and I always felt sorry for him, and the cruel life inflicted on him made me think people like him are hopeless. Imagine accepting all that punishment on your body, only bcause you have this mythology in your head. None of us could help him, he was determined to destroy his own body, he ended up insane like all of the rest. Its a shit situation, we will all be forced to talk bout society issues, and is fault of no-one really. On a personal note, I can only offer some criticism of ideas of "ascension" and "validation", ideas that taken alone dont deserve criticism, but is the way they are implemented by the looksfagging community what pissess me off. Its not that I criticize you if you have personal aspirations, its when these things are assumed to be "scientific" or "reality of life" that I start having some issues. Believe what you want really, if you want to think youre worth something only if women like you, go ahead. But dont pretend this is true. Do not come and tell me this is objective reality. Also a word of advice. Be careful, do not romanticize them, and also do not allow them to portray themselves as "transcendent humans" like they often do. They will try to portray themselves as "people who overcome adversity", and you will read in their essays redpill phrases and ideas taken and copied from redpill manuals. Dont let them do it, deny the narrative completely. Doing this shit is not "being a hero" is kinda the opposite. You be the victim, you are victimizing yourself and accepting reframing of reality by life coaches. If there has to be help for them, one has to be prepared to deny the sense of heroism they use, and disregard the tale they invent bout "overcoming adversities" this is all a lie. Their entire worldview is a lie. All they say is a lie. [/QUOTE]

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