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Message: <blockquote data-quote="porco-dddio" data-source="post: 83844" data-attributes="member: 656">Its not I don't want to help them. In my opinion normies should help themselves and improve. If some normie wants to create normie improvement movements that is awesome. Im more concerned over what is relevant for people like me. What constitutes improvement in normies perspective? Having norms that tend towards eternity? Having better norms? Who knows. I think more realistically normies dont get to choose their identity and their norms, someone will teach them both things. Im thankful we have hierarchy, if normies were in control they would just have some norms and have them eternal.</blockquote>