Discussion On Anti-natalism, Biological Dependencies, Celibacy.

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While I'm not an ardent Anti-natalist, it's a position that I have moved strongly towards in recent years. The notion of an individual desiring not to have children does have some merit, and it's an idea that some of you may resonate with depending on your own experiences.

The sexual impulse is a product of the biological urge to reproduce that occurs among living species on this planet. Reproduction is essentially a form of biological life extension, it's a prerogative for a species in order to survive, the function of an organism is essentially as a vessel carrying genetic information to be disseminated. However, as a being capable of introspection and thought, I choose not to equate myself with my biological functions. As an individual, I'm independent of the impulses which drive me as a biological organism to reproduce.

Our culture emphasizes fertility. However, having children better serves the interests of others rather than our own. Businessmen and politicians want another wageslave to squeeze labor and capital out of from cradle to coffin. Different groups want us to be fertile in order to propagate whatever ethnicity/culture/religion which we were assigned to at birth. These forces prey upon our biological dependencies and vulnerabilities to give in eventually, betabux a roastie wife and end up spitting out a few kids.

The reason humans are motivated to undertake any sexual activity at all is in order to satisfy their biological need to reproduce. And a sizable portion each generation do end up reproducing, however I myself have no interest in taking part of this cycle. I would prefer my life to cease upon my death, and my presence on this earth to be erased, rather than extending it through some offspring I have. I've no intention of continuing to participate in humanity long after my death. Some points I've heard against this is that it's a form of biological immortality, muh bloodline, etc. I find this premise nonsensical, because by reproducing, you are creating another sovereign individual who is apart and independent from yourself. While I share genetic information with the previous generations before me, my ancestors are not 'living through me', the unremarkable and hapless incel that I am.

Natalists end up foistering their expectations on the descendants that they have, (which again is akin to the various groups and interests that I have mentioned previously, they imprint their qualities and values onto their offspring), but as individuals, they only have one life. Trying to extend your life outside of that is a futile effort.

Moving on from this point, I am by no means suggesting for celibates to sublimate their biological urges, one should address them through self-pleasure, or even escorts, if they so have to.

One of the gripes that I have with some of the individuals in these spheres, is the underlying and covert female worship that is implicit in the culture. The Blackpill is gnosis, but if femoids are on your mind all the time, is that not also a form of pedestalizing them as well? If one is aware of how terrible and deceptive female nature is, would not the logical response be to stop desiring them and pay them no mind? Blackpillers free from Bluepill delusions are (rightfully) enraged at females and the chaos and destruction they have wreaked in our societies, yet there is still a lingering attachment to them, and that brings me again to the biological dependencies which I have talked about. Blackpillers tend to call out individuals who have been turned off and are not interested in women as 'copers', while claiming sex and romantic relationships are essential to life. But by claiming this, is this not a form of idealizing women? If one is aware of the facts of the Blackpill, it should follow then that there's no reason to desire them at all.

In incel culture, escorting is generally not seen as counting towards ascending from incel status—one would need to enter a relationship in order to do so.

But romantic love has become increasingly rare and sparing especially in the past few decades, even among normies—more often than not they end up getting divorce cucked or landing in a dead bedroom. Knowing female nature, I would not want myself shackled to some roastie whore wife for the rest of my life, I'd much rather prefer my autonomy as an incel than being consigned to that fate.

So what explains this 'lingering attachment', this erroneous notion that femoids will somehow make you fulfilled in life? I'd propose that the biological urge to reproduce, always omnipresent, is made manifest in the suffering and despair that many incels experience upon realization they will never find a woman or reproduce, but above all this neuroticism is the logical conclusion that one arrives at—that women are not worth your time and sufferings. By remaining dependent on females, you will continue to be a slave to them.

The use of the word cope signifies that something is used as a substitute in place of an object of desire which is unattainable, but if that object is no longer present or longed for, then it is no longer a cope. By becoming aware of and realizing their desire for sex and female relationships is only a product of their biological dependencies and urges to reproduce, and detaching them from their own individual identity, then can Blackpillers truly be free.
 
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I wind up entertaining the thought of a relationship, sometimes having kids once in a while (not that it’s a choice jfl). Then I realize how much it isn’t worth it when I look around me. If you’re not satisfying the femoid’s every want and need, she will divorce rape you and take custody of your children. She’ll take everything you own and you’ll be the one stuck paying child support.

I agreed with everything you said besides romantic love becoming rare whereas it was more common with a nuclear family. This is cope tbh. Even back then, you always hear about how the man would beat his wife because she wouldnt shut the fuck up. Women then didn’t have a choice on whether or not they wanted to create a family with a man since men dominated the workforce. Now that it’s the complete opposite and women are dominating the workforce, we can see their true nature. Yes, social media increased hypergamy, you’re not just competing with your community anymore, and instead the world. But, it’s just female nature, women are programmed to be self-centered, nagging cunts to help their offspring thrive. They’ve always naturally drifted to wanting men with superior genetics to extend to their offspring
 
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I wind up entertaining the thought of a relationship, sometimes having kids once in a while (not that it’s a choice jfl). Then I realize how much it isn’t worth it when I look around me. If you’re not satisfying the femoid’s every want and need, she will divorce rape you and take custody of your children. She’ll take everything you own and you’ll be the one stuck paying child support.

I agreed with everything you said besides romantic love becoming rare whereas it was more common with a nuclear family. This is cope tbh. Even back then, you always hear about how the man would beat his wife because she wouldnt shut the fuck up. Women then didn’t have a choice on whether or not they wanted to create a family with a man since men dominated the workforce. Now that it’s the complete opposite and women are dominating the workforce, we can see their true nature. Yes, social media increased hypergamy, you’re not just competing with your community anymore, and instead the world. But, it’s just female nature, women are programmed to be self-centered, nagging cunts to help their offspring thrive. They’ve always naturally drifted to wanting men with superior genetics to extend to their offspring
Yeah, 100%. I used that term more as a turn of phrase, just take the meaning of it being a monogamous relationship.
 
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unironically we might get robowaifus
I'm waiting for my android loli wife to make women completely obsolete. I'm not anti-natalist because if possible, I would breed the robowife. Until then, I will stick with my 2D anime waifus while retards put up with the insufferable behavior of flesh women.
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