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<blockquote data-quote="Sovereign" data-source="post: 61206" data-attributes="member: 10"><p><span style="font-size: 26px">You know I think there is something to what you've written, the problem I have however is that this is to common, to easy an answer. I wouldn't blame you for the partial bits that common to write. The reality is imagine your a human being who's been on this earth for say 20 years, do you think in that life span that human had the mental capacity or abilities we might assume him to have? </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 26px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 26px">Or even more so, that we in the modern day might even try to understand his circumstance? Human beings aren't a problem, its when we act on this faulty world view and we become so alienated from ourselves and others, how is it that we don't lose ourselves, our minds and our sense of being or purpose?</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 26px"><em></em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 26px"><em>"having to spend so much time being dependent on someone else for survival and needs is so cringe and pathetic" </em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 26px">My answer to this, you were once that, you costed someone money, time and energy. You existed and you may not have existed well, but you know what, the answer is wrong, incorrect and hopelessly without substance; we need one another because our being is designed as such that we co-create- Now ask me if that's really what I think or could verify to be true this is my example which I must base on reason:</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 26px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 26px">A pyramid first came from mind, imagination, but in order to make it happen one needed material; the essence of it is the efficiency of the task. If you want it to get done and see it come into being it must only become possible by people, by other minds.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 26px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 26px">The proof lies in our being, our actions effect the physical domain, if we want to change it on a larger scale that then requires more bodies in order for it to come into place. My point is that we create with our imagination, we bring it into being via our actions. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 26px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 26px">We must not assume for a minute that a child is stupid, because child is but a word to describe a state of being or a person who exist in an infantile state. Though, it should be noted that what we do to them, how we treat them and how they go on to internalize that behavior which others have inflicted upon them; should we not expect that positive behavior produces positive results? That negative behavior produces negative results. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 26px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 26px">Where there is merit is in the statements:</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 26px">"they force burdens and expectations (chores) on you and expect you to adhere to them just cuz they brought you into world and you rely on them"</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 26px">Man is not likable, we give each other reasons and rightfully so, yes they do force certain labors upon us. However if must be made clear what is correct instruction and not; for Correct instruction is that which is informative & true the quality of input determines the quality of output. And the truth of the matter is parents of many eras (Most eras) are not capable nor competent, nor can we hold them to high standards. In the modern sense, you can't hold children anymore to a standard then you can hold an adult who's life is so castrated & limited that they should give information capable of giving you the ability to act accordingly.</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sovereign, post: 61206, member: 10"] [SIZE=7]You know I think there is something to what you've written, the problem I have however is that this is to common, to easy an answer. I wouldn't blame you for the partial bits that common to write. The reality is imagine your a human being who's been on this earth for say 20 years, do you think in that life span that human had the mental capacity or abilities we might assume him to have? Or even more so, that we in the modern day might even try to understand his circumstance? Human beings aren't a problem, its when we act on this faulty world view and we become so alienated from ourselves and others, how is it that we don't lose ourselves, our minds and our sense of being or purpose? [I] "having to spend so much time being dependent on someone else for survival and needs is so cringe and pathetic" [/I] My answer to this, you were once that, you costed someone money, time and energy. You existed and you may not have existed well, but you know what, the answer is wrong, incorrect and hopelessly without substance; we need one another because our being is designed as such that we co-create- Now ask me if that's really what I think or could verify to be true this is my example which I must base on reason: A pyramid first came from mind, imagination, but in order to make it happen one needed material; the essence of it is the efficiency of the task. If you want it to get done and see it come into being it must only become possible by people, by other minds. The proof lies in our being, our actions effect the physical domain, if we want to change it on a larger scale that then requires more bodies in order for it to come into place. My point is that we create with our imagination, we bring it into being via our actions. We must not assume for a minute that a child is stupid, because child is but a word to describe a state of being or a person who exist in an infantile state. Though, it should be noted that what we do to them, how we treat them and how they go on to internalize that behavior which others have inflicted upon them; should we not expect that positive behavior produces positive results? That negative behavior produces negative results. Where there is merit is in the statements: "they force burdens and expectations (chores) on you and expect you to adhere to them just cuz they brought you into world and you rely on them" Man is not likable, we give each other reasons and rightfully so, yes they do force certain labors upon us. However if must be made clear what is correct instruction and not; for Correct instruction is that which is informative & true the quality of input determines the quality of output. And the truth of the matter is parents of many eras (Most eras) are not capable nor competent, nor can we hold them to high standards. In the modern sense, you can't hold children anymore to a standard then you can hold an adult who's life is so castrated & limited that they should give information capable of giving you the ability to act accordingly.[/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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