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<blockquote data-quote="porco-dddio" data-source="post: 85048" data-attributes="member: 656"><p>Who gives a shit I repost here another idea about MAGA and how we can defeat it (in theory) </p><p></p><p>Its perfectly possible to defeat MAGA.</p><p></p><p>In my past analysis I talked about the MAGA cultural revolution and how is perfectly possible to reverse it. Because MAGA only acted thru 1 of the main institutions which is the media. But MAGA showed no willingness to tackle education. MAGA is also spreading in other institutions as well, but the effects even if ruinous are not irreversible.</p><p></p><p>How long it can take to undo MAGA depends. It can be 1 generation or up to 3 or 4. It surely isnt easy. It takes lifelong dedication and lots of connections (we gotta build friendship).</p><p></p><p>But in principle is completely doable. Heres how:</p><p></p><p>MAGA has 1 crucial flaw. Their morality is transactional. Even chuds on this website who argue in favor of "redistributing pussy" demonstrate it, they are telling us clearly they will support society (MAGA) only on condition their handler offers vaginas. This is not the only thing that MAGA has to offer to their followers. They also offer parasocial support, they sell friendship tickets, they sell morality and even their own emotions.</p><p></p><p>Tony Robbins (the original grifter) already did a seminar explaining how you can sell life itself. And this is the important principle to observe in MAGA. They are illiberal, so they cannot mobilize society unless they corrupt and pay each individual. So their ability to have a support is related to how much money and resources they can spread to the corrupted people.</p><p></p><p>Yes is true, mass media movements are efficient and spread fast. But they are hierarchical in a bad way, and they are also volatile. Which is why andrew tate media (CIA) is employed to constantly repackage info and optimize the target of the grifters. Its an operation that requires state intelligence agencies. If it was easy and inexpensive they would not require alex jokes to do it. Alex is a top tier propagandist, hes the pinnacle of propaganda. People like alex jokes are needed for this operation to work, it tells us MAGA has massive inherent flaws.</p><p></p><p>True cultural revolutions such as prussian education or secularization of the west had a profound effect that will last for super long time. MAGA isnt like this. They have almost a duty to be "anti education" at this point, and is due to the mythology they need to support to be credible in front of their audience.</p><p></p><p>MAGA has to pay their followers one by one. With grievance validation, parasocial networks, status, sense of community (sold to them). Sure thing you will reply to me "but MAGA is making money"... No, they are trying to recover some of the money they are spending. A transactional movement requires a continuous stream of payoffs to keep its coalition intact. MAGA coalition is also unstable. Trump sells smartphones and bibles.</p><p>MAGA also operates on a logic of extraction. It has too evident structural limits. Because you cannot fund that mess indefinitely keep draining people over and over. Eventually they hit diminishing returns, and we also know grifting model leads to hierarchical pyramids where top grifters "game over" the system for the bottom grifters.</p><p></p><p>Alex Jokes knows all of this and even more, so hes aware of the flaws and hes also the stablizier in the movement. But even then, the inherent flaws are evident and unavoidable. We can collapse their system.</p><p></p><p>What we gotta do is activism, build real friend networks. I dont think is gona be easy and will lead you to have some issues. MAGA depoliticizes people, we can instead reintroduce politics. In other words we can do it. MAGA is not strong as it seems.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="porco-dddio, post: 85048, member: 656"] Who gives a shit I repost here another idea about MAGA and how we can defeat it (in theory) Its perfectly possible to defeat MAGA. In my past analysis I talked about the MAGA cultural revolution and how is perfectly possible to reverse it. Because MAGA only acted thru 1 of the main institutions which is the media. But MAGA showed no willingness to tackle education. MAGA is also spreading in other institutions as well, but the effects even if ruinous are not irreversible. How long it can take to undo MAGA depends. It can be 1 generation or up to 3 or 4. It surely isnt easy. It takes lifelong dedication and lots of connections (we gotta build friendship). But in principle is completely doable. Heres how: MAGA has 1 crucial flaw. Their morality is transactional. Even chuds on this website who argue in favor of "redistributing pussy" demonstrate it, they are telling us clearly they will support society (MAGA) only on condition their handler offers vaginas. This is not the only thing that MAGA has to offer to their followers. They also offer parasocial support, they sell friendship tickets, they sell morality and even their own emotions. Tony Robbins (the original grifter) already did a seminar explaining how you can sell life itself. And this is the important principle to observe in MAGA. They are illiberal, so they cannot mobilize society unless they corrupt and pay each individual. So their ability to have a support is related to how much money and resources they can spread to the corrupted people. Yes is true, mass media movements are efficient and spread fast. But they are hierarchical in a bad way, and they are also volatile. Which is why andrew tate media (CIA) is employed to constantly repackage info and optimize the target of the grifters. Its an operation that requires state intelligence agencies. If it was easy and inexpensive they would not require alex jokes to do it. Alex is a top tier propagandist, hes the pinnacle of propaganda. People like alex jokes are needed for this operation to work, it tells us MAGA has massive inherent flaws. True cultural revolutions such as prussian education or secularization of the west had a profound effect that will last for super long time. MAGA isnt like this. They have almost a duty to be "anti education" at this point, and is due to the mythology they need to support to be credible in front of their audience. MAGA has to pay their followers one by one. With grievance validation, parasocial networks, status, sense of community (sold to them). Sure thing you will reply to me "but MAGA is making money"... No, they are trying to recover some of the money they are spending. A transactional movement requires a continuous stream of payoffs to keep its coalition intact. MAGA coalition is also unstable. Trump sells smartphones and bibles. MAGA also operates on a logic of extraction. It has too evident structural limits. Because you cannot fund that mess indefinitely keep draining people over and over. Eventually they hit diminishing returns, and we also know grifting model leads to hierarchical pyramids where top grifters "game over" the system for the bottom grifters. Alex Jokes knows all of this and even more, so hes aware of the flaws and hes also the stablizier in the movement. But even then, the inherent flaws are evident and unavoidable. We can collapse their system. What we gotta do is activism, build real friend networks. I dont think is gona be easy and will lead you to have some issues. MAGA depoliticizes people, we can instead reintroduce politics. In other words we can do it. MAGA is not strong as it seems. [/QUOTE]
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