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<blockquote data-quote="porco-dddio" data-source="post: 83060" data-attributes="member: 656">I remember I had an interaction with a redpill group, they discussed self improvement. I said I improve my art skills and my wood inlay technique. They were bitter and angry and seemed they had ownership of the idea of self improvement, and told imnot improving and slandered me. Told me im a coward for not improving and im entitled. Entitled to what ? I was thinking what is this nonsense ,of course I am entitled to learn drawing. I read these people and they were doing behavior modification, telling to each other what are the &quot;good behaviors&quot; and what are the &quot;bad behaviors&quot; and treating their advice as if was &quot;objective&quot;. But every time I took one of their ideas and tried to verify it reading some pubmed, it was false.Later I became anti-redpiller, and we and other incels destroyed all of it. The lie of RK selection, hypergamy, alpha-beta, &quot;excess males&quot;. But despite we won objectively, for some reason the masses did not acknowledge us. The masses of normies believe &quot;the redpill&quot; now, the same one I encountered years ago, the same one who is already debunked to death. It seems like if you learn real skills that can be demonstrated and measured then they slander you. Instead if you allow the group handlers to tell you what to do they praise you. If you listen to these redpillers, they are full of pride and think highly of themselves, they think they are smart, but they are stupid instead. &quot;confidence&quot; means behave according to group norms, it does not means you acquired a level of skill that makes you able to draw every line with intention, it simply means you are dunning krugering while listening to an eceleb. &quot;Weakness&quot; means disagreeing with the group norms. It doesnt means like I intend it, I think a weak man is someone who accepts &quot;reality of life&quot; and does not improves his drawing or has no hobby or passion and no grand narrative. In other words I consider weak those who dont think for themselves, the normies. The redpillers have flipped reality. &quot;self improvement&quot; in redpill jargon means optimize yourself to suit the right wing ideology and group values. It is intentionally kept vague, and please do not ask me to define it, because they owe us a definition and they never gave us one. &quot;Entitlement&quot; means wanting something the group thinks you haven&#039;t earned. But I earned my hentai skills, because they are demonstrable, tangible, real. How it works outside of redpill bullshit dogma. If a normal person says &quot;I spent six months learning perspective drawing and improved dramatically&quot;. Another normal person will say &quot;wow you did awesome, nice improvement&quot;. The redpiller will slander you instead, he will say you spent 6 months on something that does not increases &quot;muh sexual maket value&quot;. Which is also false by the way. You have no idea how many girls I attracted with my inlays or just talking randomly of tomatoes. But I digress. My original critique is the redpiller has no sense of &quot;self&quot;, and thus cannot define &quot;improvement&quot;. Us, the solitary incels, we have a sense of self, we spend the entire life to search and discover our self, and then we want to emanate ideas from within. I believe redpillers will never understand us, because they are inhuman, they are simply meatbags who have no &quot;self&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="porco-dddio, post: 83060, member: 656"] I remember I had an interaction with a redpill group, they discussed self improvement. I said I improve my art skills and my wood inlay technique. They were bitter and angry and seemed they had ownership of the idea of self improvement, and told imnot improving and slandered me. Told me im a coward for not improving and im entitled. Entitled to what ? I was thinking what is this nonsense ,of course I am entitled to learn drawing. I read these people and they were doing behavior modification, telling to each other what are the "good behaviors" and what are the "bad behaviors" and treating their advice as if was "objective". But every time I took one of their ideas and tried to verify it reading some pubmed, it was false. Later I became anti-redpiller, and we and other incels destroyed all of it. The lie of RK selection, hypergamy, alpha-beta, "excess males". But despite we won objectively, for some reason the masses did not acknowledge us. The masses of normies believe "the redpill" now, the same one I encountered years ago, the same one who is already debunked to death. It seems like if you learn real skills that can be demonstrated and measured then they slander you. Instead if you allow the group handlers to tell you what to do they praise you. If you listen to these redpillers, they are full of pride and think highly of themselves, they think they are smart, but they are stupid instead. "confidence" means behave according to group norms, it does not means you acquired a level of skill that makes you able to draw every line with intention, it simply means you are dunning krugering while listening to an eceleb. "Weakness" means disagreeing with the group norms. It doesnt means like I intend it, I think a weak man is someone who accepts "reality of life" and does not improves his drawing or has no hobby or passion and no grand narrative. In other words I consider weak those who dont think for themselves, the normies. The redpillers have flipped reality. "self improvement" in redpill jargon means optimize yourself to suit the right wing ideology and group values. It is intentionally kept vague, and please do not ask me to define it, because they owe us a definition and they never gave us one. "Entitlement" means wanting something the group thinks you haven't earned. But I earned my hentai skills, because they are demonstrable, tangible, real. How it works outside of redpill bullshit dogma. If a normal person says "I spent six months learning perspective drawing and improved dramatically". Another normal person will say "wow you did awesome, nice improvement". The redpiller will slander you instead, he will say you spent 6 months on something that does not increases "muh sexual maket value". Which is also false by the way. You have no idea how many girls I attracted with my inlays or just talking randomly of tomatoes. But I digress. My original critique is the redpiller has no sense of "self", and thus cannot define "improvement". Us, the solitary incels, we have a sense of self, we spend the entire life to search and discover our self, and then we want to emanate ideas from within. I believe redpillers will never understand us, because they are inhuman, they are simply meatbags who have no "self". [/QUOTE]

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