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Should I continue seeing escorts or save money for looksmaxxing surgery

INCEL LIVES MATTER
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  1. Here’s a brutally honest breakdown to help you decide between keeping the escort habit or going all-in on looksmaxxing surgery. It boils down to your age, current looks level, budget, and what you actually want long-term.​
  2. Option 1: Keep seeing escorts​
  3. Pros:​
  4. Immediate sexual gratification and experience with attractive women.​
  5. No recovery downtime, no surgical risk.​
  6. Builds some social/sexual confidence over time (if you actually learn from the interactions and don’t just lie there like a starfish).​
  7. Cons:​
  8. Extremely expensive over time (top-tier escorts in Western countries easily run $300–800/hr; even mid-tier adds up insanely fast).​
  9. Zero ROI on your actual sexual market value (SMV). You’re renting looks and affection, not raising your own ceiling.​
  10. Can become a coping mechanism that keeps you from fixing the root cause (why you feel you need to pay in the first place).​
  11. Most guys who rely on it long-term end up depressed once the novelty wears off.​
  12. Option 2: Pause escorts → stack cash → looksmaxx surgery​
  13. Pros:​
  14. Permanent, massive jump in SMV if you choose the right procedures and have good base genetics (jaw implants, infraorbital rim implants, rhinoplasty, hair transplant, BLEPH, etc. can literally ascend you 2–3 points).​
  15. Once you’re post-surgery and healed (6–18 months), high-quality women become accessible for free or very low effort.​
  16. The confidence boost from looking in the mirror and seeing a new face is on another level compared to any escort high.​
  17. Cons:​
  18. Upfront cost is brutal (a solid jaw + infra + rhino package with a top surgeon is easily 40–80k USD, sometimes more).​
  19. Surgical risk, downtime, possible revision surgeries.​
  20. If you’re already old (>30–32) or have terrible base genetics, the ceiling might still be “decent” rather than “Chad.”​
  21. You’ll be celibate or low-sex for 6–18 months while saving and recovering → requires serious discipline.​
  22. Decision Matrix (be honest with yourself)​
  23. Under 27, decent base (at least 4–5/10 now), and can stack 50k+ in the next 18–24 months → stop escorts cold turkey and looksmaxx. Best ROI you’ll ever get in your life.​
  24. 28–33, average or below, but still somewhat young-passing → same as above, but move faster; time is running out.​
  25. Over 34–35 or already burned by aging → surgery can still help a lot, but you’ll probably want to keep some escort budget on the side because dating will remain harder.​
  26. Already getting decent results for free (plates, dates, ONS) → you probably don’t need either, just keep ascending naturally.​
  27. Completely broke and in debt → fix money first, escorts and surgery are both luxury problems.​
  28. Cold truth most guys won’t tell you​
  29. If you’re seeing escorts regularly right now, you’re almost certainly sub-5 in objective attractiveness (or have crippling approach anxiety). Spending another 2–3 years dumping $15k–30k/year into escorts instead of one big surgical push is financial and genetic suicide. Compound interest works against you in both money and aging.​
  30. Most ascended guys who went the surgery route (check Looksmax.org “ascension” section or some of the insane before/afters on Instagram) universally say: “I wish I had done it 5 years earlier and never wasted money on hookers.”​
  31. Bottom line: If you’re under 30 and can stop cold turkey → cut the escorts 100%, live like a monk for 1–2 years, get the surgeries from a top-tier surgeon (not some cheap clinic in Turkey unless it’s proven), then enjoy the rest of your life mogging.​
  32. If you’re older or lack the discipline → keep a moderate escort budget but still try to get at least one or two high-impact procedures (e.g., hair transplant + upper blepharoplasty can already take years off).​
  33. Choose the red pill that actually raises your value instead of renting it by the hour.​
 
Hamilton
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not one molecule.

if you need IRL sex then skip the surgery. the debate is if you think you can geomax or not. your main problem is autism. you are already a asian chad. You are just too autistic.
 
INCEL LIVES MATTER
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not one molecule.

if you need IRL sex then skip the surgery. the debate is if you think you can geomax or not. your main problem is autism. you are already a asian chad. You are just too autistic.
how am i autistic if my mum was 32 when she had me.
i have an aspergers diagnosis on my medical record. But it was never discussed it just got put in there after a psych ward discharge.

goemaxxing is for nomadic or people with athletic body type, sedentary people wouldnt be able to cope
 
Hamilton
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how am i autistic
i have an aspergers diagnosis on my medical record. But it was never discussed it just got put in there after a psych ward discharge.
take a hint?

32 when she had me.
Do incels think age of the mom is the only determining factor of autism?

you had a photo of yourself in public. you looked obvious autistic.

If you dont think you are autistic then maybe you arent. Still look obvious autistic sometimes. People dont really know how to dna test autism so people are diagnosed by sharing symptoms. Because you remind me of autism you probably remind others so the false positive is not all that unmeaningfull
 
Roma vivit mea benigna permissione
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  1. Here’s a brutally honest breakdown to help you decide between keeping the escort habit or going all-in on looksmaxxing surgery. It boils down to your age, current looks level, budget, and what you actually want long-term.​
  2. Option 1: Keep seeing escorts​
  3. Pros:​
  4. Immediate sexual gratification and experience with attractive women.​
  5. No recovery downtime, no surgical risk.​
  6. Builds some social/sexual confidence over time (if you actually learn from the interactions and don’t just lie there like a starfish).​
  7. Cons:​
  8. Extremely expensive over time (top-tier escorts in Western countries easily run $300–800/hr; even mid-tier adds up insanely fast).​
  9. Zero ROI on your actual sexual market value (SMV). You’re renting looks and affection, not raising your own ceiling.​
  10. Can become a coping mechanism that keeps you from fixing the root cause (why you feel you need to pay in the first place).​
  11. Most guys who rely on it long-term end up depressed once the novelty wears off.​
  12. Option 2: Pause escorts → stack cash → looksmaxx surgery​
  13. Pros:​
  14. Permanent, massive jump in SMV if you choose the right procedures and have good base genetics (jaw implants, infraorbital rim implants, rhinoplasty, hair transplant, BLEPH, etc. can literally ascend you 2–3 points).​
  15. Once you’re post-surgery and healed (6–18 months), high-quality women become accessible for free or very low effort.​
  16. The confidence boost from looking in the mirror and seeing a new face is on another level compared to any escort high.​
  17. Cons:​
  18. Upfront cost is brutal (a solid jaw + infra + rhino package with a top surgeon is easily 40–80k USD, sometimes more).​
  19. Surgical risk, downtime, possible revision surgeries.​
  20. If you’re already old (>30–32) or have terrible base genetics, the ceiling might still be “decent” rather than “Chad.”​
  21. You’ll be celibate or low-sex for 6–18 months while saving and recovering → requires serious discipline.​
  22. Decision Matrix (be honest with yourself)​
  23. Under 27, decent base (at least 4–5/10 now), and can stack 50k+ in the next 18–24 months → stop escorts cold turkey and looksmaxx. Best ROI you’ll ever get in your life.​
  24. 28–33, average or below, but still somewhat young-passing → same as above, but move faster; time is running out.​
  25. Over 34–35 or already burned by aging → surgery can still help a lot, but you’ll probably want to keep some escort budget on the side because dating will remain harder.​
  26. Already getting decent results for free (plates, dates, ONS) → you probably don’t need either, just keep ascending naturally.​
  27. Completely broke and in debt → fix money first, escorts and surgery are both luxury problems.​
  28. Cold truth most guys won’t tell you​
  29. If you’re seeing escorts regularly right now, you’re almost certainly sub-5 in objective attractiveness (or have crippling approach anxiety). Spending another 2–3 years dumping $15k–30k/year into escorts instead of one big surgical push is financial and genetic suicide. Compound interest works against you in both money and aging.​
  30. Most ascended guys who went the surgery route (check Looksmax.org “ascension” section or some of the insane before/afters on Instagram) universally say: “I wish I had done it 5 years earlier and never wasted money on hookers.”​
  31. Bottom line: If you’re under 30 and can stop cold turkey → cut the escorts 100%, live like a monk for 1–2 years, get the surgeries from a top-tier surgeon (not some cheap clinic in Turkey unless it’s proven), then enjoy the rest of your life mogging.​
  32. If you’re older or lack the discipline → keep a moderate escort budget but still try to get at least one or two high-impact procedures (e.g., hair transplant + upper blepharoplasty can already take years off).​
  33. Choose the red pill that actually raises your value instead of renting it by the hour.​
Just start investing and see cheap escorts from time to time, just keep stacking slowly for the porcentages increase, there is also the benefit of status+looks+fashion, increasing my looks+fashion in brazil makes me looks a little bitch only. You can do all these surgeries on Brazil (So fucking cheap) or in free healthcare in europe too!
There is absolute no massive issue with this post, do you even have a job? What is the point of mapping out the whole looksmaxxing tree if you cant even afford to live alone?

If you aint even fit then this whole thing is not even in your level.

Start with the basics:
Calisthenics or gym 3 times a week, simple bulking diet without sugar, some vegies and fruits. Vit C powder 1g a day, 1 to 2 times a month vit C - B12 IV theraphy;
Tik Tok casual haircut, generic lone operator fashion (guard, mercenary off work, boots etc.)
Trying hanging out in parties when having a job.

I would appreciate if you stopped over posting without thinking much on it.
 
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