Spirituality Spirituality is a psyop

[newsincerity]

"I killed my Ego, you should do it too."

Spirituality's literally something old women are into.
Seems like a way to feminize men and keep them chasing glorified states of silent mind/non duality/unity with creation or other fleeting mind phenomena and make them accept whatever bullshit comes next.
How many people practice meditating in the Himalayas for 70 years and how many Buddhas we got?

It's coping covered in layers of refinement and promise of reward in the next life.

Gurus are a bunch of elevated weirdos spouting nonesense in a professional spiritual tone contributing nothing.
Telling you to do X Y Z to win Life and how their method/belief system is the best one.
And people listen to them and think they have all the answers when unbrainwashed kids would make fun of these people and throw empty cans at the hobos.

 

[Fantasea]

 

[Queen Belle]

When an envious man sees a religious man and tries to cope

 

[Two-jay]

"I killed my Ego, you should do it too."
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Spirituality's literally something old women are into.
Seems like a way to feminize men and keep them chasing glorified states of silent mind/non duality/unity with creation or other fleeting mind phenomena and make them accept whatever bullshit comes next.
How many people practice meditating in the Himalayas for 70 years and how many Buddhas we got?

It's coping covered in layers of refinement and promise of reward in the next life.

Gurus are a bunch of elevated weirdos spouting nonesense in a professional spiritual tone contributing nothing.
Telling you to do X Y Z to win Life and how their method/belief system is the best one.
And people listen to them and think they have all the answers when unbrainwashed kids would make fun of these people and throw empty cans at the hobos.

This is literally the argument of a 30 year old reddit atheist.

Spirituality, and I mean TRUE spirituality is about trascending your own self-imposed LIMITATIONS, and this is why it reduces suffering because it helps you to see beyond yourself. I already mentioned that spirituality doesn't need any sort of metaphysics:

Spirituality - Spirituality doesn't need any metaphysics.

It is all about going all in and into life itself. To abandon all beliefs. To abandon all hope. To abandon all despair. To just be with that which is, to go further than emotion and thought. To stop mind. To die. And die. And die. All the time. And each time. No matter how many times...

elysianfields.se

It is all about going all in and into life itself. To abandon all beliefs. To abandon all hope. To abandon all despair. To just be with that which is, to go further than emotion and thought.

To stop mind.

To die.

And die.

And die.

All the time.

And each time.

No matter how many times.

Just because no reason.

Just because YES.

What will happen?

It just needs you, and only you. You, only you.

You are projecting a very reductionist view of spirituality. In fact, I'd say that the Übermensch must understand non-duality and experience it, they are both related after all because it is about trascending the limitations imposed by thought given by society and your own dualistic mind.

 

[Sovereign]

"I killed my Ego, you should do it too."
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Spirituality's literally something old women are into.
Seems like a way to feminize men and keep them chasing glorified states of silent mind/non duality/unity with creation or other fleeting mind phenomena and make them accept whatever bullshit comes next.
How many people practice meditating in the Himalayas for 70 years and how many Buddhas we got?

It's coping covered in layers of refinement and promise of reward in the next life.

Gurus are a bunch of elevated weirdos spouting nonesense in a professional spiritual tone contributing nothing.
Telling you to do X Y Z to win Life and how their method/belief system is the best one.
And people listen to them and think they have all the answers when unbrainwashed kids would make fun of these people and throw empty cans at the hobos.

That picture is from the tale of the wolf that got his tail chopped off and then tries to convince others that they should chop of theirs to right?

On that note, I talked with an old man as of recent and this is what he said "Thievery has been the same as it was in the beginning, the methods change, but the idea stays the same". Now matters such as these can be illuminating or snake oil, it just depends on where you are walking. If you are going to the silly guru crew and thinking that if you do X, Y and Z then you will obtain said goal then of course you can be led like sheep to slaughter.

However the point here is the topic of spirituality is a trip you are on either because you have those powers innately or because you have opened yourself to them, if you read the Satanic Bible and you don't know what your looking for or reading, or your mind doesn't have the necessary processing ability then what Anton Lavey wrote will go over your head and you will have been duped for a lack of wit.

Lastly, if you open yourself ought of fear and you look for others to provide you stability, you are giving yourself into the hands of others and you are giving them control over you. Are their truths to the idea that this is something only old women do? Yes of course, but this is not the totality of the subject only a few who are useful dupes buying crystals on TikTok not realizing they have no understanding of the topic whatsoever.

Think of it in the context of grammar of your native tongue, you have the rules and alphabet, you have a beginning and end; you know what your looking for and nobody can dilute that to a lower form, but in this case when it concerns man who is almost always willing to live in denial of these matters- spirit is not a joke it has real power and consequences and once opened the door does not close.

 

[newsincerity]

This is literally the argument of a 30 year old reddit atheist.

Spirituality, and I mean TRUE spirituality is about trascending your own self-imposed LIMITATIONS, and this is why it reduces suffering because it helps you to see beyond yourself. I already mentioned that spirituality doesn't need any sort of metaphysics:

Spirituality - Spirituality doesn't need any metaphysics.

It is all about going all in and into life itself. To abandon all beliefs. To abandon all hope. To abandon all despair. To just be with that which is, to go further than emotion and thought. To stop mind. To die. And die. And die. All the time. And each time. No matter how many times...

elysianfields.se

You are projecting a very reductionist view of spirituality. In fact, I'd say that the Übermensch must understand non-duality and experience it, they are both related after all because it is about trascending the limitations imposed by thought given by society and your own dualistic mind.

If people could transcend their mind by following others we would live in Utopia rn.

However the point here is the topic of spirituality is a trip you are on either because you have those powers innately or because you have opened yourself to them,

Lastly, if you open yourself ought of fear and you look for others to provide you stability, you are giving yourself into the hands of others and you are giving them control over you.

In my mind "spirituality" does more harm than good and is all about superficial nonesense and repeated jargon. Spiritual people don't need spirituality.They think they do out of need to feel like they are doing the right thing by having a fake guru telling them or a book telling them. Or are looking for a quick fix that doesnt exist. And not that meditating for 20 years gets them anywhere either.

 

[Two-jay]

If people could transcend their mind by following others we would live in Utopia rn.

In my mind "spirituality" does more harm than good and is all about superficial nonesense and repeated jargon. Spiritual people don't need spirituality.They think they do out of need to feel like they are doing the right thing by having a fake guru telling them or a book telling them. Or are looking for a quick fix that doesnt exist. And not that meditating for 20 years gets them anywhere either.

Yes, spirituality is all bullshit. Just do whatever your conditioning tells you to do. At the end, that's your nature. Be your own "guru" and shit.

 

[newsincerity]

Yes, spirituality is all bullshit. Just do whatever your conditioning tells you to do. At the end, that's your nature. Be your own "guru" and shit.

Nature and conditioning are two different things.

 

[Two-jay]

Nature and conditioning are two different things.

the conditioning given to you by nature. What about it?

 

[newsincerity]

the conditioning given to you by nature. What about it?

conditioning from society is the real problem

 

[Two-jay]

conditioning from society is the real problem

Psychoanalize yourself autistically and you're done. At least that was how I did it though. I recommend using a good AI.

 

[newsincerity]

Psychoanalize yourself autistically and you're done. At least that was how I did it though. I recommend using a good AI.

My point
Psychoanalysis and other crap society presents you is garbage you have to get rid of if you want to find truth

 

[Two-jay]

My point
Psychoanalysis and other crap society presents you is garbage you have to get rid of if you want to find truth

I agree. The thing is that stepping directly into "non-dual" territory is pretty hard if you don't "integrate" aspects of your psyche first. Although, this might not be necessary for you as it was for me since I am very traumatized basically. It all depends on the individual.

The only thing useful of doing that is you get triggered less. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[newsincerity]

I agree. The thing is that stepping directly into "non-dual" territory is pretty hard if you don't "integrate" aspects of your psyche first. Although, this might not be necessary for you as it was for me since I am very traumatized basically. It all depends on the individual.

The only thing useful of doing that is you get triggered less. Nothing more, nothing less.

what non dual what are you talking about
not sure what you mean

 

[Two-jay]

what non dual what are you talking about

Concepts of evil, good, chaos, order, ugly, beautiful, and so on... Basically, the nature of mind is to project duality onto the world. To get to whatever people consider "truth", there has to be some sort of breaking away from the default patterns of thought.

I don't know shit about this, I'm just theorizing. Plus, psychoanalysis, spirituality, science, these are all tools. They are simply that.

We are all apes trying to survive man...

 

[newsincerity]

Concepts of evil, good, chaos, order, ugly, beautiful, and so on... Basically, the nature of mind is to project duality onto the world. To get to whatever people consider "truth", there has to be some sort of breaking away from the default patterns of thought.

I don't know shit about this, I'm just theorizing. Plus, psychoanalysis, spirituality, science, these are all tools. They are simply that.

We are all apes trying to survive man...

this needs another thread

 

[Two-jay]

this needs another thread

You can research about this if you look for the term "shunyata" or "emptiness".

There is something very weird you know... It is as if all phenomena of experience were the same. I mean, there is no hierarchy between them. Pain is no greater than pleasure, pleasure is no greater than pain. And this goes for all that happens. It is as if there was some sort of level of meta-experience where life just is allowed to be what is.

There was something very weird that happened to me once. I was just sitting down on a bus, and from one moment to the next everything seemed to be the same. The thing is that this was not a state, it was as if there was no distinction, there is no thingness. Weird.

What there was, it was just it. It was very simple. It was just this.

Things were so infinite in their "thingness" that they all basically cancelled each other out.

 

[VioletBlast]

it also idol worshiping more times then not which is cucked