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<blockquote data-quote="Wolfstorm" data-source="post: 84491" data-attributes="member: 612">I believe a truecel would be a nofapper. Celibacy was originally conceived as not having sex, not just not having sex with someone else. Masturbation was always defined as sex, as a sexual act. Only in modern times with american high school chad culture that masturbation stopped being considered as a sexual act. But the core remains the same as of before. True celibacy means nofap, none of it, zero. Monks used to had erotic nightmares because they suppressed their biological urges, creating the myth of the succubus out of it, an unconscious representation of their suppressed anima. If you dont practice nofap, you aren&#039;t a true celibate, just a circunstantial one. If you still fap, you are having sex, but society will still consider you a celibate, because they use other ruler to measure it. And since you interact with them, you have to assume the label, since they will judge, gossip and slander you based on this premise, they going to do evil to you. It happened to me, I was living a peaceful life, until they slandered me and implied there was a corpse in my home, because of a stench someone else have spread in the common areas of the building. They didnt investigate it, they just accused me out of nowhere, because I live alone and no friends. No lawyer wanted the case, so I had to change address, my Skyrim project was frozen, it was hell on Earth. And I suffered this from just existing, from just breathing, I didnt caused ill to anyone. All of this because of the label. I was ignoring it up to that moment. I was ignoring I was an incel for many years. I cant ignore it anymore. I have to feed the hate machine again, because it is the only way to protect my psyche. But this is still different from a nofapper, which I would consider a truecel. I can hold both concepts at the same time, because they are modes of being. Most people, and specially midwits, cant hold contradictions for too long. They can only accept A or B.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Wolfstorm, post: 84491, member: 612"] I believe a truecel would be a nofapper. Celibacy was originally conceived as not having sex, not just not having sex with someone else. Masturbation was always defined as sex, as a sexual act. Only in modern times with american high school chad culture that masturbation stopped being considered as a sexual act. But the core remains the same as of before. True celibacy means nofap, none of it, zero. Monks used to had erotic nightmares because they suppressed their biological urges, creating the myth of the succubus out of it, an unconscious representation of their suppressed anima. If you dont practice nofap, you aren't a true celibate, just a circunstantial one. If you still fap, you are having sex, but society will still consider you a celibate, because they use other ruler to measure it. And since you interact with them, you have to assume the label, since they will judge, gossip and slander you based on this premise, they going to do evil to you. It happened to me, I was living a peaceful life, until they slandered me and implied there was a corpse in my home, because of a stench someone else have spread in the common areas of the building. They didnt investigate it, they just accused me out of nowhere, because I live alone and no friends. No lawyer wanted the case, so I had to change address, my Skyrim project was frozen, it was hell on Earth. And I suffered this from just existing, from just breathing, I didnt caused ill to anyone. All of this because of the label. I was ignoring it up to that moment. I was ignoring I was an incel for many years. I cant ignore it anymore. I have to feed the hate machine again, because it is the only way to protect my psyche. But this is still different from a nofapper, which I would consider a truecel. I can hold both concepts at the same time, because they are modes of being. Most people, and specially midwits, cant hold contradictions for too long. They can only accept A or B. [/QUOTE]

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