Essay The femcel phenomenon

[Indrid]

A lot of "femcels" keep ending up on my twitter for you feed lately. What leads a woman to want to be a female incel, despite not even being celibate? Watching from afar I've noticed a few things including some admitting to not being virgins. What is a femcel if not the female counterpart of incel?

My first theory is attention seeking as they don't have their own forums such as this or .is to my knowledge. A lot of guys that reply to them fall for the bait and start simping. It should be enough to make them realize the reality, but they will continue to identify as femcels. A theory I heard from someone else is that they want to invade male spaces. I don't think this is necessarly true since we don't see them getting into these forums very often from what I've seen. I'd like to see how many chose female trying to sign up for this forum, if @Tabula Rasa will tell us.

Another theory is they think or want to appear they're rotters, almost always false when they post pics. I don't feel like looking for it since I probably won't be able to find it, but I've seen an ethot although I don't think they identified as a femcel, post a picture of them in their room but it looked like staged filth if that makes sense. No pathway to the bed and desk, things facing the camera that would normally be on it's side like a mcdonalds bag. Possibly an over analysis but a lot of the replies agreed with me as well as the quote retweet that brought it into my feed. That's more on the side of girl failures which is a possible hole in the theory but there's a lot of overlap. I believe girl failures are a false concept in my opinion only found in anime, I might elaborate on this in a later thread but that a big might.

I have few more theories, one is this is somehow how they persieve themselves, unloveable. Low self esteem in other words. No matter how many men want to date them, a femcel will always have this perception about herself no matter how many men try to date her, they'll just ignore them and continue to self loathe. I'm aware of a part of twitter called shtwt, or self harm twitter. It's prodomitly female, I believe this supports the theory of self loathing, although most on that part of twitter don't identify as femcels I believe there's overlap similar to girl failures. I'm not very familar with shtwt so I may be wrong with this assessment.

The next theory is self sabatoge, as many have been in relationships. Many just can't make a relationship last, even if they go after incels which I have seen some do. They'll hop from relationship to relationship, often edating. The incel is happy that he finally got a girlfriend even if it's online, they'll put him through countless nonsenical shit tests, he gets sick of it and leaves them, they find a new incel, repeat. Rather than learn from why the last relationship failed, they will continue doing the same thing over and over.

The final theory is the simplist, and likely as common as attention seeking if not more so, they have high standards, higher than most women. The men who would meet said standards would be unwilling to date them because they have better options. I remember hearing of a femcel subreddit a while back which discussed things like "high value males". This theory could be summed up in one word, delusional.

Overall, I believe women are prone to attention seeking behaviors. Self harm being common among women is likely the most common example. Women will always do things to get attention, and men will always be there to give it to them. The best thing we can do is not give it to them. Does anyone here have any theories on femcels that I'm misssing?

 

[Tabula Rasa]

There was one who signed up a while ago, but that threat has been neutralized. It's only scrotes who actually sign up and post on this place.

 

[Indrid]

There was one who signed up a while ago, but that threat has been neutralized. It's only scrotes who actually sign up and post on this place.

I'm curious as to what her join reason was

 

[Tabula Rasa]

I'm curious as to what her join reason was

Some generic shit about wanting to participate in the discussion

 

[Indrid]

Some generic shit about wanting to participate in the discussion

Mine was just "you told me to" lmao

 

[𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕯𝖊𝖛𝖎𝖑]

There was one who signed up a while ago, but that threat has been neutralized. It's only scrotes who actually sign up and post on this place.

banning girls is literally gay

 

[Indrid]

banning girls is literally gay

Please let us have our male only spaces

 

[𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕯𝖊𝖛𝖎𝖑]

Please let us have our male only spaces

no

 

[GGWP]

I anticipate that certain ruling factions are Neo-Malthusian and might be pushing for declining birthrates to prevent total collapse. You should check out 'The Limits to Growth' :: https://www.clubofrome.org/publication/the-limits-to-growth/:: which is a very pivotal study produced in the 70s wherein they generated detailed simulations about the future, this paper has been corroborated as very reliable and forecasts major economic and climate collapse by the 2040s. In order to prevent worst-case scenarios birth rates and consumption had to be lowered drastically. 'Inceldom' and 'Femceldom' are just a result of policies meant to prevent excess procreation, in my opinion.

Women have a different brain structure and pain can be rewarding for them which is why they engage in behaviours like self-harm. A guy made an excellent post about it on the incel forum that I couldn't rightfully take credit for :: https://incels.is/threads/women-gai...-the-pain-that-is-inflicted-upon-them.254271/ :: It's a great read. I think this is why women tend to be emotional and physical masochists; they might call themselves 'femcels' as they enjoy the self-degrading nature of it as it lights up the Mu receptors in their limbic system. I think this is why a lot of 'feminine' behaviours might seem distasteful or weird to men, such as the femcel aesthetic, because there is a fundamental difference in brain wiring that makes males far more averse to pain or social defeat.

 

[DreamLight]

Women have a different brain structure and pain can be rewarding for them which is why they engage in behaviours like self-harm. A guy made an excellent post about it on the incel forum that I couldn't rightfully take credit for :: https://incels.is/threads/women-gai...-the-pain-that-is-inflicted-upon-them.254271/ :: It's a great read. I think this is why women tend to be emotional and physical masochists; they might call themselves 'femcels' as they enjoy the self-degrading nature of it as it lights up the Mu receptors in their limbic system. I think this is why a lot of 'feminine' behaviours might seem distasteful or weird to men, such as the femcel aesthetic, because there is a fundamental difference in brain wiring that makes males far more averse to pain or social defeat

High IQ and good post. I've always speculated to why many women are into self-harm and date abusive partners, but I couldn't put my finger on it to exactly why. Recently I was talking to this self-proclaimed "femcel", who made videos on tictok about how men suck and are bad people. I was nice to her and all, but I woke up one day and she blocked me. Keep in mind, she also had another orbiter around her at the time. I check her tictok from time to time, and she still hangs around the people who bully her.

 

[Indrid]

I woke up one day and she blocked me

she still hangs around the people who bully her.

I think there's a link between this type of behavior and female depression. Rather than leaving a space where they are clearly unwelcomed and finding actual friends, they insist that they stay.

Women have a different brain structure and pain can be rewarding for them which is why they engage in behaviours like self-harm

This is interesting but also explains a lot of what I've seen.

Good information, my knowledge is limited to my observations which are exclusively online. A lot of people say online isn't real life, but I believe online is more real than real life. People are free to go fully uncensored and so they do, ending any facades. Unprompted rant aside, this is all good information.

 

[Zygo=cheekbone]

I anticipate that certain ruling factions are Neo-Malthusian and might be pushing for declining birthrates to prevent total collapse. You should check out 'The Limits to Growth' :: https://www.clubofrome.org/publication/the-limits-to-growth/:: which is a very pivotal study produced in the 70s wherein they generated detailed simulations about the future, this paper has been corroborated as very reliable and forecasts major economic and climate collapse by the 2040s. In order to prevent worst-case scenarios birth rates and consumption had to be lowered drastically. 'Inceldom' and 'Femceldom' are just a result of policies meant to prevent excess procreation, in my opinion.

Women have a different brain structure and pain can be rewarding for them which is why they engage in behaviours like self-harm. A guy made an excellent post about it on the incel forum that I couldn't rightfully take credit for :: https://incels.is/threads/women-gai...-the-pain-that-is-inflicted-upon-them.254271/ :: It's a great read. I think this is why women tend to be emotional and physical masochists; they might call themselves 'femcels' as they enjoy the self-degrading nature of it as it lights up the Mu receptors in their limbic system. I think this is why a lot of 'feminine' behaviours might seem distasteful or weird to men, such as the femcel aesthetic, because there is a fundamental difference in brain wiring that makes males far more averse to pain or social defeat.

I Actually think the mu opioid thing is overblown out of proportion. While women seem to activate the mu opioid system more frequently on average, there is a lot of other pain mediators including enkephalins, prostaglandins , endocannabinoids etc. and while the opioid system is still the strongest I think the outcome is way less straightforward to be surmised as women handling pain better . What i think is happening is men relying on other endogenous analgesics which aren't as potent as endorphins that agonise mu because mu receptor is susceptible to downregulation rapidly; and if anything i think it's the natural response to pain in women since they don't have the metabolic flexibility to rely on less potent analgesics to reduce nociception.

 

[GGWP]

I Actually think the mu opioid thing is overblown out of proportion. While women seem to activate the mu opioid system more frequently on average, there is a lot of other pain mediators including enkephalins, prostaglandins , endocannabinoids etc. and while the opioid system is still the strongest I think the outcome is way less straightforward to be surmised as women handling pain better . What i think is happening is men relying on other endogenous analgesics which aren't as potent as endorphins that agonise mu because mu receptor is susceptible to downregulation rapidly; and if anything i think it's the natural response to pain in women since they don't have the metabolic flexibility to rely on less potent analgesics to reduce nociception.

You could certainly be right, I need to read up more about Neuroscience. I am quoting an incel forum of all things.
I probably shouldn't have made a broad sweeping generalization, but ah.

 

[Indrid]

You could certainly be right, I need to read up more about Neuroscience. I am quoting an incel forum of all things.
I probably shouldn't have made a broad sweeping generalization, but ah.

This entire thread was based on my doom scrolling of twitter.

 

[Renko]

women just have empty personalities because their life purpose is to pump out our offspring, so they have no real need for a character since asserting their will onto the world wouldnt help them in labor and childbirth and would only take away from that. the alteration of reality through technology and navigating existence through langauge and culture are the masculine drives, while birthing and nurturing life are of the feminine

the existence of women, is to be totally receptive to their world around them, their female peers, their chads, the state, mass media, social media, they cannot look inward and only do so when it regards the prospects of their wombs, which leads to their narcissism and vapidness. they are absolutely incapable of creating culture, ideas or a philosophy that is worth anyones time reading.

look into the femcel "culture" and you will see the same inanities that exist in all other female dominated online spaces, with the language being carbon copied from manosphere incel spaces and aesthetics that at are almost indistinguashable from a porn addicted loser male turned tranny. boil all of these down and you have another marketable fashion trend for the worlds biggest consumer group.

what draws them into incel shit in the first place? my guess is that they saw some fakecel chad/lite on discord or some shit and all that shit imprinted on them, over the past few years i've been seeing the incel label become another sadboy/emo type of caricature which was always popular with young girls. this is what happens when you don't gatekeep fakecels.