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<blockquote data-quote="Schwarzwald" data-source="post: 76643" data-attributes="member: 544">Look man, I&#039;ve looked into the phantom time stuff (Illig, Heinsohn, and even Fomenko&#039;s wilder dynastic parallels). The images you&#039;re posting are interesting at first glance, the overlapping emperors and those staggered Italian/Byzantine/Germanic timelines do look like someone was playing fast and loose with the calendar.But here&#039;s where it completely falls apart for me: all of reality isn&#039;t just European monk fanfiction.If the Vatican (or Otto III or whoever) yoinked 700-1000 years, then Chinese Tang/Song records, Islamic astronomical observations, the early Islamic conquests, independent Halley&#039;s Comet sightings, and solar eclipses across cultures would all be off by centuries. They aren&#039;t. The astronomy lines up. Tree rings line up. Non European histories don&#039;t have a matching mysterious gap, they were doing their own thing just fine.The Roman family tree being a messy inbred knife fight makes sense because Roman politics was a knife fight. The three Romes looking staggered is exactly what you&#039;d expect when the Western half collapses, Byzantium keeps chugging, and Germanic kingdoms start LARPing as Holy Roman successors. Doesn&#039;t require a global calendar conspiracy.Same with the Antarctica/Rothschild base and Greenland Theory, it&#039;s genuinely fun to imagine immortal Romans chilling under the ice with scalar weapons, but building that in the 19th century (or faking an entire empire&#039;s death and relocating to Thule) runs into the same problem: the rest of the world didn&#039;t get the memo.I&#039;m down to hear the strongest piece you&#039;re seeing though. What&#039;s the one bit that actually makes you go &quot;hmm, that part&#039;s hard to explain away&quot;? Because right now it feels like connecting a lot of dots that look better when you ignore everything outside Europe.Unless we&#039;re going full tilt, space is fake and gay, we&#039;re on a giant ice ball, and some 7th dimensional reality bending god narrator is rewriting the solar system just so the elites could hide a few extra centuries, I just have a hard time believing that much time got lost(and I can believe a lot). Even if all the bloodlines got together in a massive multicultural backroom deal, you can&#039;t fake Halley&#039;s Comet or tree rings that easily.I&#039;m not trying to be a downer, this is just one of those conspiracies have read into before.[ATTACH=full]15602[/ATTACH]</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Schwarzwald, post: 76643, member: 544"] Look man, I've looked into the phantom time stuff (Illig, Heinsohn, and even Fomenko's wilder dynastic parallels). The images you're posting are interesting at first glance, the overlapping emperors and those staggered Italian/Byzantine/Germanic timelines do look like someone was playing fast and loose with the calendar. But here's where it completely falls apart for me: all of reality isn't just European monk fanfiction. If the Vatican (or Otto III or whoever) yoinked 700-1000 years, then Chinese Tang/Song records, Islamic astronomical observations, the early Islamic conquests, independent Halley's Comet sightings, and solar eclipses across cultures would all be off by centuries. They aren't. The astronomy lines up. Tree rings line up. Non European histories don't have a matching mysterious gap, they were doing their own thing just fine. The Roman family tree being a messy inbred knife fight makes sense because Roman politics was a knife fight. The three Romes looking staggered is exactly what you'd expect when the Western half collapses, Byzantium keeps chugging, and Germanic kingdoms start LARPing as Holy Roman successors. Doesn't require a global calendar conspiracy. Same with the Antarctica/Rothschild base and Greenland Theory, it's genuinely fun to imagine immortal Romans chilling under the ice with scalar weapons, but building that in the 19th century (or faking an entire empire's death and relocating to Thule) runs into the same problem: the rest of the world didn't get the memo. I'm down to hear the strongest piece you're seeing though. What's the one bit that actually makes you go "hmm, that part's hard to explain away"? Because right now it feels like connecting a lot of dots that look better when you ignore everything outside Europe. Unless we're going full tilt, space is fake and gay, we're on a giant ice ball, and some 7th dimensional reality bending god narrator is rewriting the solar system just so the elites could hide a few extra centuries, I just have a hard time believing that much time got lost(and I can believe a lot). Even if all the bloodlines got together in a massive multicultural backroom deal, you can't fake Halley's Comet or tree rings that easily. I'm not trying to be a downer, this is just one of those conspiracies have read into before. [ATTACH type="full"]15602[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]

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