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<blockquote data-quote="John Cracovizk" data-source="post: 1908" data-attributes="member: 45">When I think about Stoicism applied on a large scale, it&#039;s easy for me to see how it offers a solid approach to dealing with societal, political, and economic adversities. The idea of accepting what we cannot change and focusing our energy on what we can control is incredibly powerful. It helps maintain sanity in a chaotic and unpredictable world (sort of like Christianity do to my parents in a sense).But when it comes to applying these principles in my own daily life, especially in more personal and emotional matters, I encounter some resistance. For example, when facing personal challenges like dealing conflicts in close relationships or with myself (addictions and etc), I often find myself struggling against the idea of simply accepting the situation and moving on. Instead, I feel a stronger need for control, a desire to change the circumstances somehow. I wrote this when I was thinking about it:&quot;Some may say that if you desire no outcome, you will always come out winning (something the Stoics would like to hear). But I tell you, my friends: that is a statement devoid of any passion. What passion is there in indifference? I answer you: none. A being without passion is a being that can be compared to being dead, after all, is being alive desirable to them? They will tell you (this comes from John Sellars&#039; Stoicism): neither desirable nor undesirable, it is just a non-essential preference.The truth is, as long as we live, victory and defeat, life and death, are challenges we must face with courage. Hiding behind a mask of indifference is a coherent narrative to reject pain, to reject nature, because pain is part of being human, only those who are alive feel pain. So I tell you, instead of hiding behind indifference, embrace your feelings, you can only feel sad because one day you felt happy.&quot; </blockquote>

[QUOTE="John Cracovizk, post: 1908, member: 45"] When I think about Stoicism applied on a large scale, it's easy for me to see how it offers a solid approach to dealing with societal, political, and economic adversities. The idea of accepting what we cannot change and focusing our energy on what we can control is incredibly powerful. It helps maintain sanity in a chaotic and unpredictable world (sort of like Christianity do to my parents in a sense). But when it comes to applying these principles in my own daily life, especially in more personal and emotional matters, I encounter some resistance. For example, when facing personal challenges like dealing conflicts in close relationships or with myself (addictions and etc), I often find myself struggling against the idea of simply accepting the situation and moving on. Instead, I feel a stronger need for control, a desire to change the circumstances somehow. I wrote this when I was thinking about it: [I]"Some may say that if you desire no outcome, you will always come out winning (something the Stoics would like to hear). But I tell you, my friends: that is a statement devoid of any passion. What passion is there in indifference? I answer you: none. A being without passion is a being that can be compared to being dead, after all, is being alive desirable to them? They will tell you (this comes from John Sellars' Stoicism): neither desirable nor undesirable, it is just a non-essential preference. The truth is, as long as we live, victory and defeat, life and death, are challenges we must face with courage. Hiding behind a mask of indifference is a coherent narrative to reject pain, to reject nature, because pain is part of being human, only those who are alive feel pain. So I tell you, instead of hiding behind indifference, embrace your feelings, you can only feel sad because one day you felt happy." [/I] [/QUOTE]

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