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The Vertiginous Question (or: Why the Hell Am I This Particular Bag of Meat and Regret?)
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<blockquote data-quote="Schwarzwald" data-source="post: 73140" data-attributes="member: 544"><p>If the simulation is as deep as it looks, calling ourselves predictable meat robots is a solid anchor to keep the room from spinning. But here’s the thing, it’s not exactly about me or you having the definitive answer or claiming that what I’m discussing is base reality. It’s more that these systems should speak to you if you’re actually thinking critically about consciousness. I completely understand that feeling of wanting to not engage with these thoughts, it’s a lot to process.</p><p></p><p><strong>However</strong>, if you’re being honest with yourself and you actually want to understand what’s behind the curtain of our simple everyday perceptions, then it’s worth the investment to discuss it respectfully and honestly with others.</p><p></p><p>The meat robot only runs the program; it doesn’t experience the <em><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">brutality</span></em> of the code. <strong><span style="color: rgb(147, 101, 184)">The fact that you felt it as 'too much' is the glitch. The hardware doesn't feel the sting of its own wiring, only the</span> <em><span style="color: rgb(247, 218, 100)">observer does</span></em>.</strong> Once you realize you’re in a machine that follows rules, you stop being a component and start looking for the admin console.</p><p></p><p>It’s a heavy lift, for sure. But if the meat robot story was the whole truth, we wouldn't even be having this conversation, we'd just be humming along with the rest of the grid. What part of the virtual mechanics specifically felt like the biggest jump for you?</p><p>[ATTACH=full]14537[/ATTACH]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Schwarzwald, post: 73140, member: 544"] If the simulation is as deep as it looks, calling ourselves predictable meat robots is a solid anchor to keep the room from spinning. But here’s the thing, it’s not exactly about me or you having the definitive answer or claiming that what I’m discussing is base reality. It’s more that these systems should speak to you if you’re actually thinking critically about consciousness. I completely understand that feeling of wanting to not engage with these thoughts, it’s a lot to process. [B]However[/B], if you’re being honest with yourself and you actually want to understand what’s behind the curtain of our simple everyday perceptions, then it’s worth the investment to discuss it respectfully and honestly with others. The meat robot only runs the program; it doesn’t experience the [I][COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]brutality[/COLOR][/I] of the code. [B][COLOR=rgb(147, 101, 184)]The fact that you felt it as 'too much' is the glitch. The hardware doesn't feel the sting of its own wiring, only the[/COLOR] [I][COLOR=rgb(247, 218, 100)]observer does[/COLOR][/I].[/B] Once you realize you’re in a machine that follows rules, you stop being a component and start looking for the admin console. It’s a heavy lift, for sure. But if the meat robot story was the whole truth, we wouldn't even be having this conversation, we'd just be humming along with the rest of the grid. What part of the virtual mechanics specifically felt like the biggest jump for you? [ATTACH type="full"]14537[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]
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