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<blockquote data-quote="Schwarzwald" data-source="post: 80318" data-attributes="member: 544">Well I do concede that point, Mishima wrote the script himself from scratch, which is what makes him genuinely interesting versus the others who are essentially cover bands. But mishima was a different breed of animal and the Asian mental joint psyche is very different and foreign to a westerners mind.It&#039;s odd to think about mental scaring, epiegenerics and the out come on a group of people that have a history so wrapped up in suicide, saving face, and honor. Concepts like &quot;karoshi&quot; death by overwork is something most westerns now a days find completely alien.Hiroshima and Nagasaki survivors, the generational trauma of WWII defeat and occupation, the humiliation of surrender, there&#039;s a real argument that Mishima&#039;s generation was carrying something in their bodies that expressed as a particular flavor of death obsession and national shame.I just don&#039;t think we should even be bring him up in a conversation about young men who have had their minds warped and twisted by society. Their struggle is on a completely different realm of petty grievance.Ted kaczynski was a highly intelligent man, who was possibly influenced by mk ultra and other bizarre event in his college days. If anything he was trying to stop rokos basilisk before it had a name.We think about something like the Oklahoma city bombing, yes it wasn&#039;t a suicide but it might have well been. All to say is that these are protest again society and the joint mental space we all live in.Can you recall all the men who self immolated in America alone?Everyone remembers this one,[ATTACH=full]16859[/ATTACH]But what about this one?[ATTACH=full]16860[/ATTACH]All this to just say that their deaths are exclamation point to there message they are trying to get across to us. And as humans when we look away we don&#039;t only do a disserves to their message but to the idea of life it self. We harden are hearts and lose something very special to us.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Schwarzwald, post: 80318, member: 544"] Well I do concede that point, Mishima wrote the script himself from scratch, which is what makes him genuinely interesting versus the others who are essentially cover bands. But mishima was a different breed of animal and the Asian mental joint psyche is very different and foreign to a westerners mind. It's odd to think about mental scaring, epiegenerics and the out come on a group of people that have a history so wrapped up in suicide, saving face, and honor. Concepts like "karoshi" death by overwork is something most westerns now a days find completely alien. Hiroshima and Nagasaki survivors, the generational trauma of WWII defeat and occupation, the humiliation of surrender, there's a real argument that Mishima's generation was carrying something in their bodies that expressed as a particular flavor of death obsession and national shame. I just don't think we should even be bring him up in a conversation about young men who have had their minds warped and twisted by society. Their struggle is on a completely different realm of petty grievance. Ted kaczynski was a highly intelligent man, who was possibly influenced by mk ultra and other bizarre event in his college days. If anything he was trying to stop rokos basilisk before it had a name. We think about something like the Oklahoma city bombing, yes it wasn't a suicide but it might have well been. All to say is that these are protest again society and the joint mental space we all live in. Can you recall all the men who self immolated in America alone? Everyone remembers this one, [ATTACH type="full" alt="Thích_Quảng_Đức_self-immolation.jpg"]16859[/ATTACH] But what about this one? [ATTACH type="full" alt="Aaron-Bushnell.jpg"]16860[/ATTACH] All this to just say that their deaths are exclamation point to there message they are trying to get across to us. And as humans when we look away we don't only do a disserves to their message but to the idea of life it self. We harden are hearts and lose something very special to us. [/QUOTE]

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