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<blockquote data-quote="Depresso" data-source="post: 80385" data-attributes="member: 347"><p>I literally gave you two compelling examples from Mishima and Morita themselves and it doesn't get clearer than that. The others don't really have to contradict the rationalisation of their own suicide especially when they want to present it that way to the world. It would take away from the message if it got too obvious that it was there before the message.</p><p></p><p>If this is true, that's what makes them so dangerous. Anyone can just give them a mission or pull them into a pipeline and fit them into a narrative.</p><p></p><p></p><p>This guy is writing essays about ritual death and then creates the context for <u>his own ritual suicide</u> in the same year he publishes the essays.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]16890[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>Exigent — Needing urgent attention and intervention.</p><p></p><p>Other critics got the same idea from his writings, I'm not the only one.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The second guy Morita was told not to commit suicide but he went ahead and dedicated it for the "Tatenokai" movement. This guy filled his diary with suicide well before he met Mishima while he was still in High School. You could say his circumstances caused this but all of his siblings went ahead and got married and lived their lives, he was the only suicidal one. The suicide was there already and he was rationalising it by first longing for his parents, then politics and finally:</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]16889[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>Why do you think he is persisting? Mishima hoped that having a girlfriend would keep him alive but this guy was writing love letters to death long before they met. He's being told "don't do it" but he responds "Sir, I can't let you die alone".</p><p></p><p>Everyone else got dissuaded and survived. This guy is insisting the he die, you can't take it away from him now.</p><p></p><p>I'm not saying that all political suicides are like that. I'm only arguing that these types exist.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Depresso, post: 80385, member: 347"] I literally gave you two compelling examples from Mishima and Morita themselves and it doesn't get clearer than that. The others don't really have to contradict the rationalisation of their own suicide especially when they want to present it that way to the world. It would take away from the message if it got too obvious that it was there before the message. If this is true, that's what makes them so dangerous. Anyone can just give them a mission or pull them into a pipeline and fit them into a narrative. This guy is writing essays about ritual death and then creates the context for [U]his own ritual suicide[/U] in the same year he publishes the essays. [ATTACH type="full" alt="Yukio Mishima paraphrase.PNG"]16890[/ATTACH] Exigent — Needing urgent attention and intervention. Other critics got the same idea from his writings, I'm not the only one. The second guy Morita was told not to commit suicide but he went ahead and dedicated it for the "Tatenokai" movement. This guy filled his diary with suicide well before he met Mishima while he was still in High School. You could say his circumstances caused this but all of his siblings went ahead and got married and lived their lives, he was the only suicidal one. The suicide was there already and he was rationalising it by first longing for his parents, then politics and finally: [ATTACH type="full" alt="Masakatsu Morita 2.PNG"]16889[/ATTACH] Why do you think he is persisting? Mishima hoped that having a girlfriend would keep him alive but this guy was writing love letters to death long before they met. He's being told "don't do it" but he responds "Sir, I can't let you die alone". Everyone else got dissuaded and survived. This guy is insisting the he die, you can't take it away from him now. I'm not saying that all political suicides are like that. I'm only arguing that these types exist. [/QUOTE]
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