Discussion Thoughts on the Occult?

[GGWP]

In my mind there are two main schools of thought when it comes to occultism:

1. Everything 'occult' is an archaic way of understanding the world before modern science. In the past physical, chemical and biological mechanisms were not well understood, leading people to extrapolate knowledge from their own subjective sense. It is not useful in the 21st century.

2. Occult and spiritual teachings are an alternative science and have value despite revolutions in mainstream science. Reality cannot be measured empirically all of the time and spirituality may be an equivalent or more advanced method of understanding the world.

Do you believe in empiricism and the material world? Or do you think there is an often overlooked spiritual element to our world, and if so why?

 

[𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕯𝖊𝖛𝖎𝖑]

do you think there is an often overlooked spiritual element to our world, and if so why?

I've seen and experienced paranormal stuff many times

 

[PointOfNoReturn]

I've seen and experienced paranormal stuff many times

Same

 

[Sovereign]

In my mind there are two main schools of thought when it comes to occultism:

1. Everything 'occult' is an archaic way of understanding the world before modern science. In the past physical, chemical and biological mechanisms were not well understood, leading people to extrapolate knowledge from their own subjective sense. It is not useful in the 21st century.

2. Occult and spiritual teachings are an alternative science and have value despite revolutions in mainstream science. Reality cannot be measured empirically all of the time and spirituality may be an equivalent or more advanced method of understanding the world.

Do you believe in empiricism and the material world? Or do you think there is an often overlooked spiritual element to our world, and if so why?

It comes from the Latin root Occultare, simply meaning "to hide" or "Keep hidden". When observing reality, we find that there are aspects & layers which our eyes cannot see, perspectives which require some use of technology in order to observe life. For example, how do you know what a cell is? If had lived then you wouldn't have likely never know or likely could not find out until the available technology was present our reality is strange, spirits and Gods its evident that if you look you will din something odd to all of creation. All I can tell you is, if you go looking for something you better know that it will come to you the question is of what intent is that thing which you are searching for?

 

[Loner]

most of its a meme and a waste of time outside of energy work and wake induced lucid dreaming

the only useful spiritual information I’ve ever encountered is everything relating to soul trap theory.

 

[somethingtobelievein]

Very hard to cut through the BS but there's more than nothing to it. Trying to balance being skeptical and open.

I think people claiming to know all these specifics and having special powers are generally bs. But I also think there's truth to energy, vibration, frequency being powerful and appearing to be beyond our understanding sometimes

 

[ekil]

chaos magick perspective here:

any paradigm is a tool at my disposal. theres good occult and bad occult. theres good science and theres soyience.

and both occult and science ideas are used by charlatans

neither occult nor science are right nor wrong. they are paradigms of thought. thought is a real thing with real effects, right/wrong dichotomy is an oversimplification.

a fallacy many people have is the "science says" fallacy, when in fact "science" says nothing. its a methodology to validate or invalidate hypotheses. science "says" different things depending on which study ur reading and how u interpret the results.