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<blockquote data-quote="Depresso" data-source="post: 84784" data-attributes="member: 347"><p style="text-align: center"><strong><span style="font-size: 26px">Thoughts on The Whitepill</span></strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong></strong></p> <p style="text-align: center"><strong>[ATTACH=full]18267[/ATTACH]</strong></p><p></p><p>I still believe that the pills do not build on one another and are not intersectional or compatible at all. The <span style="color: rgb(235, 107, 86)"><strong>redpill</strong></span> personal solutions mindset is not compatible with the <span style="color: rgb(71, 85, 119)"><strong>blackpill</strong></span> political solutions mindset at all. The <span style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255)"><strong>whitepill</strong></span> feels like a return to the redpill mindset after accepting the uncomfortable truths and recognising the limitations of self-improvement, you still improve your life.</p><p></p><p style="text-align: center">[ATTACH=full]18268[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><strong>The Whitepill</strong></span></p><p>The term has it's history back in 2017 in online discourse and does not credit it's origin to anyone in particular. Later, a model and an interpretation of the pill jargon as a pill universe was created by SergeantIncel. In this model the pills are sequential starting with the blue and finishing with the black and each pill proceeds from the last. I do not agree with this model at all because the bluepill beliefs in the mainstream media and the community based redpill and blackpill are all profoundly incompatible with each other. They do not support each other at all and they produce different worldviews and attitudes.</p><p></p><p>The “<span style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255)"><strong>whitepill</strong></span>” points to a particular stance on life, after fully facing uncomfortable truths — those that people often avoid, deny, or label as taboos —the person tries to maximize happiness in a way that does not depend on denial or fantasy. It's focus is in creating fulfilling lifestyles without the copeful behaviour of <strong><span style="color: rgb(84, 172, 210)">bluepillers</span></strong> or even some <strong><span style="color: rgb(235, 107, 86)">redpillers</span></strong> (sometimes improvement is not possible). The framing of the whitepill is not a grievance based political ideology like the blackpill, it is a shift towards acceptance and realism. It is about building a good life from what is actually there.</p><p></p><p>From that angle, the whitepill tends to encourage exploration of philosophies that support resilience and meaning after disillusionment. It focuses less on “fixing reality” and more on examining what you can control, your choices, habits, relationships, values, and daily practices. It is a disillusionment with the typical blackpill attitudes of active nihilism and LDARing online, there must be something better out there.</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://elysianfields.se/threads/should-white-pill-leave-the-identity-term-incel-behind.3967/[/URL]</p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://elysianfields.se/threads/%E2%9C%89%EF%B8%8F-message-to-the-incels.4433/[/URL]</p><p></p><p>The end state of the journey is the “return to mundane life”, leaving behind the endless meta-narrative of pill talk and beginning to talk like a normal adult. To grow up from the "-maxxing" lingo.</p><p></p><p style="text-align: center">[ATTACH=full]18270[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p><strong>Thoughts</strong></p><p>I think that the mainstream media corporations, academia and businesses owning dating apps should be held publicly accountable for all toxicity in the online dating communities. The 80/20 statistic was published by the Match group which owns online dating apps which depend on profile pictures (lookism). It is no surprise that when the mainstream media distributes bluepill delusions and the profile picture based dating apps are designed to keep people single to profit from loneliness, you start to see blackpill communities to form. Men are not crazy for noticing the patterns.</p><p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center">[ATTACH=full]18272[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]18273[/ATTACH]</p> <p style="text-align: center"></p><p>The bluepill and it's romanticised lies about love are the most dangerous things to human happiness because of their capacity in misleading away from achieving happiness in the real world. Baudrillard's pill jargon is the dystopian <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coming_of_age" target="_blank">coming of age story</a> in the industral world that Theodore Kaczynski predicted, growing up in a world of cheaters (in business, in politics and in love).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Depresso, post: 84784, member: 347"] [CENTER][B][SIZE=7]Thoughts on The Whitepill[/SIZE] [ATTACH type="full" width="209px" alt="Pill-Overview-wrong.png"]18267[/ATTACH][/B][/CENTER] I still believe that the pills do not build on one another and are not intersectional or compatible at all. The [COLOR=rgb(235, 107, 86)][B]redpill[/B][/COLOR] personal solutions mindset is not compatible with the [COLOR=rgb(71, 85, 119)][B]blackpill[/B][/COLOR] political solutions mindset at all. The [COLOR=rgb(255, 255, 255)][B]whitepill[/B][/COLOR] feels like a return to the redpill mindset after accepting the uncomfortable truths and recognising the limitations of self-improvement, you still improve your life. [CENTER][ATTACH type="full" alt="whitepill removed bg.png"]18268[/ATTACH][/CENTER] [SIZE=5][B]The Whitepill[/B][/SIZE] The term has it's history back in 2017 in online discourse and does not credit it's origin to anyone in particular. Later, a model and an interpretation of the pill jargon as a pill universe was created by SergeantIncel. In this model the pills are sequential starting with the blue and finishing with the black and each pill proceeds from the last. I do not agree with this model at all because the bluepill beliefs in the mainstream media and the community based redpill and blackpill are all profoundly incompatible with each other. They do not support each other at all and they produce different worldviews and attitudes. The “[COLOR=rgb(255, 255, 255)][B]whitepill[/B][/COLOR]” points to a particular stance on life, after fully facing uncomfortable truths — those that people often avoid, deny, or label as taboos —the person tries to maximize happiness in a way that does not depend on denial or fantasy. It's focus is in creating fulfilling lifestyles without the copeful behaviour of [B][COLOR=rgb(84, 172, 210)]bluepillers[/COLOR][/B] or even some [B][COLOR=rgb(235, 107, 86)]redpillers[/COLOR][/B] (sometimes improvement is not possible). The framing of the whitepill is not a grievance based political ideology like the blackpill, it is a shift towards acceptance and realism. It is about building a good life from what is actually there. From that angle, the whitepill tends to encourage exploration of philosophies that support resilience and meaning after disillusionment. It focuses less on “fixing reality” and more on examining what you can control, your choices, habits, relationships, values, and daily practices. It is a disillusionment with the typical blackpill attitudes of active nihilism and LDARing online, there must be something better out there. [URL unfurl="true"]https://elysianfields.se/threads/should-white-pill-leave-the-identity-term-incel-behind.3967/[/URL] [URL unfurl="true"]https://elysianfields.se/threads/%E2%9C%89%EF%B8%8F-message-to-the-incels.4433/[/URL] The end state of the journey is the “return to mundane life”, leaving behind the endless meta-narrative of pill talk and beginning to talk like a normal adult. To grow up from the "-maxxing" lingo. [CENTER][ATTACH type="full" alt="zy8voy-4183201055.jpg"]18270[/ATTACH][/CENTER] [B]Thoughts[/B] I think that the mainstream media corporations, academia and businesses owning dating apps should be held publicly accountable for all toxicity in the online dating communities. The 80/20 statistic was published by the Match group which owns online dating apps which depend on profile pictures (lookism). It is no surprise that when the mainstream media distributes bluepill delusions and the profile picture based dating apps are designed to keep people single to profit from loneliness, you start to see blackpill communities to form. Men are not crazy for noticing the patterns. [CENTER] [ATTACH type="full" width="238px" alt="china bans blue pill.png"]18272[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full" width="147px" alt="okcupid rating.jpg"]18273[/ATTACH] [/CENTER] The bluepill and it's romanticised lies about love are the most dangerous things to human happiness because of their capacity in misleading away from achieving happiness in the real world. Baudrillard's pill jargon is the dystopian [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coming_of_age']coming of age story[/URL] in the industral world that Theodore Kaczynski predicted, growing up in a world of cheaters (in business, in politics and in love). [/QUOTE]
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