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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Myst" data-source="post: 29357" data-attributes="member: 24">I disagree with mega-churches and evangelism and those kinds of people, but places of worship are houses of god, I don't see why you can't have halal/kosher/permissible fun there so long as it does not distract you or others from worship, you can always set designated times for fun events at your place of worship as it brings the community even closer. Whether it be games, wrestling, intellectual discussion, etc.As for the LGBT part:I can understand your frustrations around this contentious topic, and this is what i have to say about it.you’ve probably heard this, but being gay in and of itself doesn’t contradict being muslim. you probably know also that sex outside of marriage is not allowed, and that marriage constitutes of an official union between 2 consenting people, a man and a woman. homosexual marriages are not recognized, therefore homosexual sex is considered sex outside of marriage, which is a sin. So what does this mean?Acting on the desire ie having homosexual intercourse also doesn’t contradict you being muslim. it is a sin, and sinning does not take you out of the  fold of Islam. Refusing God as God takes you out of Islam, which you can remember by repenting and again recognizing God as God.There are do’s and and don’t in Islam, but that is the second priority of the religion. the first priority is faith; who is God, why do you worship him, who is the prophet, how do we follow and love him, what’s his role in our salvation.after that, the rules are applied with the principle that everything is allowed unless explicitly stated impermissible. this is especially true when it comes to our needs. sex is permissible, and it’s a need, and it’s actually an encouraged practice unlike christianity - but it is explicitly stated that it’s between husband and wife. Islam is a system that ensures our human needs are are met, without overstepping into our ego’s desires which kills our sense of empathy for those around us.breaking those rules entails repentance and having a plan on how to break out of the bad habit and having the intention to stop. Muslims have to assume they are forgiven every time they seek forgiveness. They HAVE to believe God is merciful and forgiving, as stated in the Quran.I think our society insists that we must not feel shame for being immoral, which includes sex outside of marriage (hence, gay = pride). this is why it makes it difficult for gay people to accept that in Islam, we must see our sins as sins and feel (good) shame and want to change ourselves for the good. this doesn’t contradict “being yourself” etc, it actually ensures you are yourself in the most wholesome way. (if you’re wondering, bad shame is when it makes you break yourself down instead of building yourself up.)i think what you can focus on if you want to become muslim or start practicing seriously, after learning about faith like i said, is asking yourself if you’re willing to look at sex outside of marriage as a sin, and something to actively intend to cease. even if you end up falling for the temptation over and over until you die, if your intention is, “this is a sin and im trying to stop” you have to know that God will forgive you because that is repentance and humility. This may sound contradictory, but the intention you have towards sex outside of marriage, seeing it as a sin is what makes it or breaks it for you, not the action in and of itself.[USER=30]@Postman[/USER] [USER=96]@burn[/USER] [USER=1]@Tabula Rasa[/USER] [USER=69]@n9wiff[/USER] [USER=9]@PointOfNoReturn[/USER]Thoughts?</blockquote>

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