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Message: <blockquote data-quote="porco-dddio" data-source="post: 83547" data-attributes="member: 656">My personal exp is limited, I accepted self destruction in forms of rituals where I accepted to be burned into ashes (smoking and drinking) I also did stupid choices on my own volition, but these choices seemed rational based on the info I had available. My choices were not rational once I acquired better info.On the broader topic, I can say I believe firmly yes you can make people do actions contrary to their moral principles, and is a thing denied by many hypnotists, while instead I think is real.What benefit does self harm provide? I dont know, it can be your brain makes you feel happy or gives you some reward of some type. The discussion is so broad I cant pin a single reason.</blockquote>