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<blockquote data-quote="porco-dddio" data-source="post: 85080" data-attributes="member: 656"><p>Based on what I have read of socialists, they tend to fear patriotism, nationalism and a thing they call "bonapartism". The case of Georgy Zhukov is interesting, they slurred him calling him "bonapartist", and I didnt know that was a slur. But it was a cool learning exp, because now I know more or less what socialsts truly fear.</p><p>In essence this zhukov guy was a big charismaman, and they realized if he told people to destroy socialism, they would have followed him. He was nationally known and he was considered heroic. People seen him like maximus meridius in the movie the gladiator. The emperor has maximus killed, simply because he was a respected war general.</p><p></p><p>Now as for patriotism and nationalism. The socialist hates it when it is legitimate. But they have no problem playing into the game of nationalism and patriotism, or even using national mythology. When is convenient they do it. The socialist regime is essentially an illegitimate government, so I came to realize Solzhenitsyn is right and these people simply hate truth. Any identity other than the regime one is considered bad.</p><p></p><p>What a socialist can do is slander nationalism as "bourgeoisie" or make it appear as if its equivalent of being hitler. But they use nationalism tactically if it suits them, or when they have a need to overthrow some western place. All of a sudden the nationalist character will be elevated as ultimate virtue signal.</p><p></p><p>Second example is stalin patriotic war. The socialists know that nobody gives a shit about international multiculty bullshit. Overnight the socialist propaganda changed, and they started to brand war as "patriotic". And they also used mythology, like anti napoleon sentiment and so on. That works. It swindles the dupes.</p><p></p><p>The idea is people like stalin or mao, they are "social constructs", nobody really gives a shit about them. Socialists have to grow the support artificially, by building statues or by narrating false mythology owning the media. In other words socialism is essentially fase and alien to the culture it tries to control. The idols of people have to be mechanically constructed, all is artificial. The history is rewritten, and art is mutilated. These idols are false, and they are created thru monopoly over all media and by controlling all what a human learns from cradle to grave.</p><p></p><p>A guy like Georgy Zhukov instead is the real deal, a man genuinely admired by masses called "Hero". Anyone like that is a threat to socialism. Why? because that man was no "social construct". He was truly admired for stuff he did, not for stuff the media fabricated.</p><p></p><p>Third thing they hate is independent worker movements. If workers organize, but for real not "be organized" by the socialist commy "leader", that scares them. Because socialists essentially hate workers. Its not a mystery that socialism mostly spreads in university environments. Like, in italy is spread at capalbio, a posh hipster city full of richmen. In UK was spread in the haughty big schools, and there was fabian society. A worker is not welcome in a socialist gathering even in our days. Go at a propal protest: its filled with students in leggins who use ableton and apple devices.</p><p></p><p>Worker movements terrify socialists probably more than anything I mentioned so far, it breaks their mythology completely. Marxist bullshit slanders workers saying they believe in "false consciousness", meaning the marxist imposes himself above the plumber or the technician. The worker is considered "uneducated", which always makes me laugh when I speak to avg "propal" retards. Contemporary workers read conspiracy theories and many work sectors require people to have university titles far more complex than bullshit marxism and study sociology in school.</p><p></p><p>Last thing socialists fear: the expert.</p><p></p><p>Paradoxically, socialists are also scared by the social status of "the expert". Dont take it wrong, I dont mean it like Convid army of thought patrols "the experts", these people were no "expert" at all, they were connected kids in media management schools opened by their rich dads, they were no scientists.</p><p>I mean, if you are technically expert, you can become feared by the socialists. Bcause your truth can demolish socialist dogma, especially if your truth works for real or is socially necessary and they cannot kill you.</p><p></p><p>Thats pretty much it.</p><p></p><p>Also notice that socialists are not scared of playing the racial game or the ethnic game. They can easily do ethno pluralism. Or ethno nationalism, which is a rebrand. Dont think for a second these people would not do it, they already did it. What really scares a socialist in a nutshell is: anything that is true.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="porco-dddio, post: 85080, member: 656"] Based on what I have read of socialists, they tend to fear patriotism, nationalism and a thing they call "bonapartism". The case of Georgy Zhukov is interesting, they slurred him calling him "bonapartist", and I didnt know that was a slur. But it was a cool learning exp, because now I know more or less what socialsts truly fear. In essence this zhukov guy was a big charismaman, and they realized if he told people to destroy socialism, they would have followed him. He was nationally known and he was considered heroic. People seen him like maximus meridius in the movie the gladiator. The emperor has maximus killed, simply because he was a respected war general. Now as for patriotism and nationalism. The socialist hates it when it is legitimate. But they have no problem playing into the game of nationalism and patriotism, or even using national mythology. When is convenient they do it. The socialist regime is essentially an illegitimate government, so I came to realize Solzhenitsyn is right and these people simply hate truth. Any identity other than the regime one is considered bad. What a socialist can do is slander nationalism as "bourgeoisie" or make it appear as if its equivalent of being hitler. But they use nationalism tactically if it suits them, or when they have a need to overthrow some western place. All of a sudden the nationalist character will be elevated as ultimate virtue signal. Second example is stalin patriotic war. The socialists know that nobody gives a shit about international multiculty bullshit. Overnight the socialist propaganda changed, and they started to brand war as "patriotic". And they also used mythology, like anti napoleon sentiment and so on. That works. It swindles the dupes. The idea is people like stalin or mao, they are "social constructs", nobody really gives a shit about them. Socialists have to grow the support artificially, by building statues or by narrating false mythology owning the media. In other words socialism is essentially fase and alien to the culture it tries to control. The idols of people have to be mechanically constructed, all is artificial. The history is rewritten, and art is mutilated. These idols are false, and they are created thru monopoly over all media and by controlling all what a human learns from cradle to grave. A guy like Georgy Zhukov instead is the real deal, a man genuinely admired by masses called "Hero". Anyone like that is a threat to socialism. Why? because that man was no "social construct". He was truly admired for stuff he did, not for stuff the media fabricated. Third thing they hate is independent worker movements. If workers organize, but for real not "be organized" by the socialist commy "leader", that scares them. Because socialists essentially hate workers. Its not a mystery that socialism mostly spreads in university environments. Like, in italy is spread at capalbio, a posh hipster city full of richmen. In UK was spread in the haughty big schools, and there was fabian society. A worker is not welcome in a socialist gathering even in our days. Go at a propal protest: its filled with students in leggins who use ableton and apple devices. Worker movements terrify socialists probably more than anything I mentioned so far, it breaks their mythology completely. Marxist bullshit slanders workers saying they believe in "false consciousness", meaning the marxist imposes himself above the plumber or the technician. The worker is considered "uneducated", which always makes me laugh when I speak to avg "propal" retards. Contemporary workers read conspiracy theories and many work sectors require people to have university titles far more complex than bullshit marxism and study sociology in school. Last thing socialists fear: the expert. Paradoxically, socialists are also scared by the social status of "the expert". Dont take it wrong, I dont mean it like Convid army of thought patrols "the experts", these people were no "expert" at all, they were connected kids in media management schools opened by their rich dads, they were no scientists. I mean, if you are technically expert, you can become feared by the socialists. Bcause your truth can demolish socialist dogma, especially if your truth works for real or is socially necessary and they cannot kill you. Thats pretty much it. Also notice that socialists are not scared of playing the racial game or the ethnic game. They can easily do ethno pluralism. Or ethno nationalism, which is a rebrand. Dont think for a second these people would not do it, they already did it. What really scares a socialist in a nutshell is: anything that is true. [/QUOTE]
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