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What if foids objective when choosing who to reproduce with isn't based on choosing the objectively best options but is instead based on...

The Enlightened One
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What if foids objective when choosing who to reproduce with isn't based on choosing the objectively best options but is instead based on constantly moving the goalposts to avoid evolution moving too much in one direction.

People talk about sexual selection in animal species like the peacocks tail where it is selected solely for visual purposes rather than function or the irish elk where the female elk chose males with bigger and bigger antlers until they got so big that it hindered their chances of survival

What if the objective of foids of the human species is simply to prevent too much of a good thing
What I mean by this is that foids will only pursue men with certain traits for a short amount of time before ripping up the script and moving the goalposts to something else which seemingly makes no sense because one of the previous traits they selected for may have seemed the most beneficial for evolution

Males like to think we cracked the code of looksmaxxing and discovered exactly what looks ideal in the 21st century because we believe there is one single idea of the pinnacle man which we must get as close as we can objectively

But what if this one ideal form of man to strive for is just an illusion and women operate on a subconsicous hive mind basis to always keep men guessing on what they will become attracted to next so that men are constantly in a state of adaptation and chasing the next thing foids select for solely to keep the amount of men who manage to figure it out in the minority.

If men find an ideal party location that's just gaining hype which is ideal for slaying because it's conducive to a slutty atmosphere and the girls who go there fuck easily, within a couple of years it will turn into a sausage fest because every man hears of the slaying stories and wants to experience a piece of the action because those who experienced it can't keep their mouth shut and gatekeep it and within no time the gem no longer exists because too many people found out about it and discovered an apparent advantage so foids moved away from it

What if foids general selection acts the same way, as soon as males realized roiding was a legit way to slay, the general foids stopped caring about roidcels because it was no longer a growing niche and too many roidcels saturated the market trying to compete which made it no longer seem rare to foids so they moved on from it.

Foids are not programmed to pick the traits that are objectively the best and keep doing it for eternity
If they were then the height of men would simply never stop increasing, but instead we have found an equilibrium in the height of white men with white men born in 2000 being no taller than the ones born in 1980 in the Netherlands which was the most height hypergamous country.

This just shows that when a trait become super successful in a short space of time, it suddenly stops becoming successful all of a sudden when the foid hivemind realizes it's gaining too much momentum and they prevent it from becoming a run away train.

On things like height and physical features, selecting for traits goes around in cycles, it never remains a case of one trait continually being picked over and over for generations because it's objectively better, foids just change what they choose in order to change to direction of evolution to avoid it going in the same direction for too long.

In the 2010s, it seemed like being the bigger mogger who was taller, better looking and more gymcelled was always the way to achieve more sexual success, however this flipped after 2020 and suddenly foids threw the curveball of looks purgatory into the equation whereby they would rather date a LTN who served as golden retriever than date a HTN who they feared they didn't have enough power over (meaning he wasn't worth the risk for the lack of relationship security whereas they'd deem a chadlite to be worth the risk) meaning we entered a window in time where many 85th percentile males were having worse dating results than many 30th percentile males
 
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What if foids objective when choosing who to reproduce with isn't based on choosing the objectively best options but is instead based on constantly moving the goalposts to avoid evolution moving too much in one direction.

People talk about sexual selection in animal species like the peacocks tail where it is selected solely for visual purposes rather than function or the irish elk where the female elk chose males with bigger and bigger antlers until they got so big that it hindered their chances of survival

What if the objective of foids of the human species is simply to prevent too much of a good thing
What I mean by this is that foids will only pursue men with certain traits for a short amount of time before ripping up the script and moving the goalposts to something else which seemingly makes no sense because one of the previous traits they selected for may have seemed the most beneficial for evolution

Males like to think we cracked the code of looksmaxxing and discovered exactly what looks ideal in the 21st century because we believe there is one single idea of the pinnacle man which we must get as close as we can objectively

But what if this one ideal form of man to strive for is just an illusion and women operate on a subconsicous hive mind basis to always keep men guessing on what they will become attracted to next so that men are constantly in a state of adaptation and chasing the next thing foids select for solely to keep the amount of men who manage to figure it out in the minority.

If men find an ideal party location that's just gaining hype which is ideal for slaying because it's conducive to a slutty atmosphere and the girls who go there fuck easily, within a couple of years it will turn into a sausage fest because every man hears of the slaying stories and wants to experience a piece of the action because those who experienced it can't keep their mouth shut and gatekeep it and within no time the gem no longer exists because too many people found out about it and discovered an apparent advantage so foids moved away from it

What if foids general selection acts the same way, as soon as males realized roiding was a legit way to slay, the general foids stopped caring about roidcels because it was no longer a growing niche and too many roidcels saturated the market trying to compete which made it no longer seem rare to foids so they moved on from it.

Foids are not programmed to pick the traits that are objectively the best and keep doing it for eternity
If they were then the height of men would simply never stop increasing, but instead we have found an equilibrium in the height of white men with white men born in 2000 being no taller than the ones born in 1980 in the Netherlands which was the most height hypergamous country.

This just shows that when a trait become super successful in a short space of time, it suddenly stops becoming successful all of a sudden when the foid hivemind realizes it's gaining too much momentum and they prevent it from becoming a run away train.

On things like height and physical features, selecting for traits goes around in cycles, it never remains a case of one trait continually being picked over and over for generations because it's objectively better, foids just change what they choose in order to change to direction of evolution to avoid it going in the same direction for too long.

In the 2010s, it seemed like being the bigger mogger who was taller, better looking and more gymcelled was always the way to achieve more sexual success, however this flipped after 2020 and suddenly foids threw the curveball of looks purgatory into the equation whereby they would rather date a LTN who served as golden retriever than date a HTN who they feared they didn't have enough power over (meaning he wasn't worth the risk for the lack of relationship security whereas they'd deem a chadlite to be worth the risk) meaning we entered a window in time where many 85th percentile males were having worse dating results than many 30th percentile males
Maybe, we have little understanding of how woman work in that respect, perhaps comparing the human realm and the animal realm to understand sexual selection might not be correct in terms of comparison, mind you that psychological warfare or just basic psychological principles have been used in the past and can be a far greater influence then what we call "natural".
 
African giant
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What if foids objective when choosing who to reproduce with isn't based on choosing the objectively best options but is instead based on constantly moving the goalposts to avoid evolution moving too much in one direction.

People talk about sexual selection in animal species like the peacocks tail where it is selected solely for visual purposes rather than function or the irish elk where the female elk chose males with bigger and bigger antlers until they got so big that it hindered their chances of survival

What if the objective of foids of the human species is simply to prevent too much of a good thing
What I mean by this is that foids will only pursue men with certain traits for a short amount of time before ripping up the script and moving the goalposts to something else which seemingly makes no sense because one of the previous traits they selected for may have seemed the most beneficial for evolution

Males like to think we cracked the code of looksmaxxing and discovered exactly what looks ideal in the 21st century because we believe there is one single idea of the pinnacle man which we must get as close as we can objectively

But what if this one ideal form of man to strive for is just an illusion and women operate on a subconsicous hive mind basis to always keep men guessing on what they will become attracted to next so that men are constantly in a state of adaptation and chasing the next thing foids select for solely to keep the amount of men who manage to figure it out in the minority.

If men find an ideal party location that's just gaining hype which is ideal for slaying because it's conducive to a slutty atmosphere and the girls who go there fuck easily, within a couple of years it will turn into a sausage fest because every man hears of the slaying stories and wants to experience a piece of the action because those who experienced it can't keep their mouth shut and gatekeep it and within no time the gem no longer exists because too many people found out about it and discovered an apparent advantage so foids moved away from it

What if foids general selection acts the same way, as soon as males realized roiding was a legit way to slay, the general foids stopped caring about roidcels because it was no longer a growing niche and too many roidcels saturated the market trying to compete which made it no longer seem rare to foids so they moved on from it.

Foids are not programmed to pick the traits that are objectively the best and keep doing it for eternity
If they were then the height of men would simply never stop increasing, but instead we have found an equilibrium in the height of white men with white men born in 2000 being no taller than the ones born in 1980 in the Netherlands which was the most height hypergamous country.

This just shows that when a trait become super successful in a short space of time, it suddenly stops becoming successful all of a sudden when the foid hivemind realizes it's gaining too much momentum and they prevent it from becoming a run away train.

On things like height and physical features, selecting for traits goes around in cycles, it never remains a case of one trait continually being picked over and over for generations because it's objectively better, foids just change what they choose in order to change to direction of evolution to avoid it going in the same direction for too long.

In the 2010s, it seemed like being the bigger mogger who was taller, better looking and more gymcelled was always the way to achieve more sexual success, however this flipped after 2020 and suddenly foids threw the curveball of looks purgatory into the equation whereby they would rather date a LTN who served as golden retriever than date a HTN who they feared they didn't have enough power over (meaning he wasn't worth the risk for the lack of relationship security whereas they'd deem a chadlite to be worth the risk) meaning we entered a window in time where many 85th percentile males were having worse dating results than many 30th percentile males
I don't think any of these things is ever thought of in the mind of women. Your rationalization just seems like a cope to me. Height will always be attractive, because it signals good bone development. Face will always be attractive because it signals less negative genetic mutations. And with every positive trait, it goes like this. Height getting stabilized just might mean that women that select for height now, just aren't having children, especially in the hypergamous west, instead opting for having children when they're hags at 40 years old. I have seen way too many old women with what seems to be their sons, and that son is not getting good development from being born to a 40-year-old. Add to that the oofy doofies that almost never are tall, being the ones having children with chad-used women.

Women are animals, so are men. We can't help our nature. It's just that simple. We just want to make it mean more because your consciousness comes from a human body. It's your own human experience clouding your judgment. You can't really see it... Because your human! We don't really mean much, us humans, really.

So if you're fucking 6 4 and have a decent face, go enjoy your time on earth, and stop being a lil nig ffs.
 
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I don't think any of these things is ever thought of in the mind of women.
Hence why I said "women operate on a subconsicous hive mind basis" in relation to their choices and sudden illogical seeming shifts in choices

Your rationalization just seems like a cope to me. Height will always be attractive, because it signals good bone development. Face will always be attractive because it signals less negative genetic mutations.
Something being attractive and something being selected are two different things

And with every positive trait, it goes like this. Height getting stabilized just might mean that women that select for height now, just aren't having children, especially in the hypergamous west, instead opting for having children when they're hags at 40 years old. I have seen way too many old women with what seems to be their sons, and that son is not getting good development from being born to a 40-year-old. Add to that the oofy doofies that almost never are tall, being the ones having children with chad-used women.
In the last paragraph I touched on foids choosing LTN golden retrievers over HTNs for LTRs, this also applies to foids choosing to have children with LTNs over better looking males which is evidence of my theory that women on a broad scale change to mating patterns that don't appear to make sense from a genetic fitness or evolutionary standpoint simply for the sake of moving the goalposts.

In this decade LTNs can outperform HTNs when it comes to finding an LTR, who the fuck knows what the meta will shift to in the 2030s, all I know is that we will always be one step behind, reacting to women's mate choices and trying to keep up so we can adapt.

The blackpill is literally an outdated concept for when foids reached peak willingness to engage in casual sex combined with peak levels of looks based selection at the onset of the ability to date via the internet.
The market has shifted since then and foids have dropped below their peak sluttiness of that era and are less enamoured by moggers than the foids of that era in which being a mogger pre-looksmaxxing was novel.

Women are animals, so are men. We can't help our nature. It's just that simple. We just want to make it mean more because your consciousness comes from a human body. It's your own human experience clouding your judgment. You can't really see it... Because your human! We don't really mean much, us humans, really.

So if you're fucking 6 4 and have a decent face, go enjoy your time on earth, and stop being a lil nig ffs.
Implying I'm not enjoying my time on this earth by exploring theories?
 
African giant
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Hence why I said "women operate on a subconsicous hive mind basis" in relation to their choices and sudden illogical seeming shifts in choices
Shift in genetics on a world scale simultaneously throughout all women? That sound plausible? And why is that something that their genes would find beneficial, how can they communicate? Is there a World Wide Web for genes?
Something being attractive and something being selected are two different things
Normally it ends up being the same thing. Women whose genes made them attracted to height passed on their genes more due to the environment pressures, where taller men ended up reproducing and shorter men perishing against other taller men. Being tall is attractive for a reason.
In the last paragraph I touched on foids choosing LTN golden retrievers over HTNs for LTRs, this also applies to foids choosing to have children with LTNs over better looking males which is evidence of my theory that women on a broad scale change to mating patterns that don't appear to make sense from a genetic fitness or evolutionary standpoint simply for the sake of moving the goalposts.

In this decade LTNs can outperform HTNs when it comes to finding an LTR, who the fuck knows what the meta will shift to in the 2030s, all I know is that we will always be one step behind, reacting to women's mate choices and trying to keep up so we can adapt.

The blackpill is literally an outdated concept for when foids reached peak willingness to engage in casual sex combined with peak levels of looks based selection at the onset of the ability to date via the internet.
The market has shifted since then and foids have dropped below their peak sluttiness of that era and are less enamoured by moggers than the foids of that era in which being a mogger pre-looksmaxxing was novel.
This quite literally is studied in science. A lot of primates do this thing where females don't exude signs of being fertilized. It's called canceled ovulation. Women in the past would make men raise children who are not theirs, and enjoy the stability of having that so called LTN golden retriever. But nowadays with simple protection you can override this. So they can fuck other men, and not have their children. And after getting their share, they finally have a child at 40, whose genetic quality is absolute shit.
Implying I'm not enjoying my time on this earth by exploring theories?
You can do you, but I thought doing this type of thing was relegated to outcasts and not the genetically fortunate
 
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Shift in genetics on a world scale simultaneously throughout all women? That sound plausible? And why is that something that their genes would find beneficial, how can they communicate? Is there a World Wide Web for genes?

Normally it ends up being the same thing. Women whose genes made them attracted to height passed on their genes more due to the environment pressures, where taller men ended up reproducing and shorter men perishing against other taller men. Being tall is attractive for a reason.

This quite literally is studied in science. A lot of primates do this thing where females don't exude signs of being fertilized. It's called canceled ovulation. Women in the past would make men raise children who are not theirs, and enjoy the stability of having that so called LTN golden retriever. But nowadays with simple protection you can override this. So they can fuck other men, and not have their children. And after getting their share, they finally have a child at 40, whose genetic quality is absolute shit.

You can do you, but I thought doing this type of thing was relegated to outcasts and not the genetically fortunate
Height is not that important as 5'9+ if you have the status+Knock out power+Social power, something that few men in this age has, lanky/fat 6'4 vs 5'10 muscular martial artist with a military/cop/law role.
 
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