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<blockquote data-quote="bell" data-source="post: 40322" data-attributes="member: 354">I am an incel. It&#039;s easier for outside observers to treat &quot;inceldom&quot; as an attribute, more a variant of &quot;misogynist&quot; with a few other features. I had a friend once who was in my shoes (virgin, &quot;love-shy&quot;, past teenagehood)--difference being that he was fairly good looking, had been on several dates and so on. I thus wouldn&#039;t call him an incel, even though he was &quot;involuntarily celibate&quot;. At this point he probably has, I don&#039;t know. He was around twenty-something when I knew him.It&#039;s easier to say that incels aren&#039;t trying hard enough or are self-sabotaging themselves, which is true, but I think it&#039;s a self-prophesying term, that &quot;this person is subject to these circumstances because of a genetic failing,&quot; and all else falls into place. It&#039;s just easier to articulate it that way.Also, a part of inceldom is neuroticism. There is a difference between healthy sexual obsession in adolescents and unhealthy sexual obsession in postadolescents. That doesn&#039;t translate into misogyny per se, but in any case it isn&#039;t a view of &quot;equals&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="bell, post: 40322, member: 354"] I am an incel. It's easier for outside observers to treat "inceldom" as an attribute, more a variant of "misogynist" with a few other features. I had a friend once who was in my shoes (virgin, "love-shy", past teenagehood)--difference being that he was fairly good looking, had been on several dates and so on. I thus wouldn't call him an incel, even though he was "involuntarily celibate". At this point he probably has, I don't know. He was around twenty-something when I knew him. It's easier to say that incels aren't trying hard enough or are self-sabotaging themselves, which is true, but I think it's a self-prophesying term, that "this person is subject to these circumstances because of a genetic failing," and all else falls into place. It's just easier to articulate it that way. Also, a part of inceldom is neuroticism. There is a difference between healthy sexual obsession in adolescents and unhealthy sexual obsession in postadolescents. That doesn't translate into misogyny per se, but in any case it isn't a view of "equals". [/QUOTE]

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