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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Wolfstorm" data-source="post: 80099" data-attributes="member: 612"><p>Right at conception. The soul is needed for the bodies to grow. First body to manifest is the etheric body (which spawns the manes), then the physical body (when the foetus takes form and is no longer a egg). The astral body only appears at birth and is defined by planetary positions (astral chart). The three bodies requires a soul, a field of consciousness to hold them together, the field is a fragment from a previous field and is pulled from the luminal space. The foetus is conscious, so it is a living being. To kill it is murder, pure and simple.</p></blockquote><p></p>