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<blockquote data-quote="Depresso" data-source="post: 84303" data-attributes="member: 347">You&#039;re kind of proving how hylics are pretty much the same as the bigger systems they&#039;re parts of.I don&#039;t think you&#039;re being honest or authentic at all here in making abuse and corruption a problem with euthanasia or MAID itself. If you thought that MAID corrupts the healthcare system because the players will use it to cut costs then you could just propose to move it&#039;s provision outside of the healthcare system and say let the hospitals only do one thing and one thing only, health. You didn&#039;t and you said that the abuse is a problem with euthanasia itself which it isn&#039;t at all, the abuse is already ubiquitous and often directly causes the demand for euthanasia whether it&#039;s legally on offer or not.None of the players need to abuse MAID to deliver death like they&#039;re Amazon parcels. If the incentives ever aligned, the news cycles would start running. Euthanasia is about individuals deciding enough is enough.[ATTACH=full]18134[/ATTACH]Accepting euthanasia is more of an admission of a truth than it is a philosophical position and everyone knows that. If you were confronted with a choice between dying to something prolonged and brutal or something quick and painless we know which one you would choose. Your position is that you don&#039;t have that problem and that others should shut up about it because you don&#039;t like the social implications of it.The social implications are already there because everyone knows that it&#039;s true, so the admission will not cause any problems.I don&#039;t think that admitting that euthanasia is truth is caused by me being depressed. I&#039;ve been to the clinic and what I&#039;ve seen is that there are more and more normies being referred for help to prevent suicide. At first I saw the usual, unsolvable problems types with tubes coming out of their bodies but then just everyday normies.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Depresso, post: 84303, member: 347"] You're kind of proving how hylics are pretty much the same as the bigger systems they're parts of. I don't think you're being honest or authentic at all here in making abuse and corruption a problem with euthanasia or MAID itself. If you thought that MAID corrupts the healthcare system because the players will use it to cut costs then you could just propose to move it's provision outside of the healthcare system and say let the hospitals only do one thing and one thing only, health. You didn't and you said that the abuse is a problem with euthanasia itself which it isn't at all, the abuse is already ubiquitous and often directly causes the demand for euthanasia whether it's legally on offer or not. None of the players need to abuse MAID to deliver death like they're Amazon parcels. If the incentives ever aligned, the news cycles would start running. Euthanasia is about individuals deciding enough is enough. [ATTACH type="full"]18134[/ATTACH] Accepting euthanasia is more of an admission of a truth than it is a philosophical position and everyone knows that. If you were confronted with a choice between dying to something prolonged and brutal or something quick and painless we know which one you would choose. Your position is that you don't have that problem and that others should shut up about it because you don't like the social implications of it. The social implications are already there because everyone knows that it's true, so the admission will not cause any problems. I don't think that admitting that euthanasia is truth is caused by me being depressed. I've been to the clinic and what I've seen is that there are more and more normies being referred for help to prevent suicide. At first I saw the usual, unsolvable problems types with tubes coming out of their bodies but then just everyday normies. [/QUOTE]

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